Good and Loving Ohio Father Asks “Why?”

The following is my emailed response to an Ohio father who moved here from Georgia and had custody through a Georgia court, of his two children whom he raised alone, and without any assistance from the mother of his children who also lived in Ohio.

Despite having already been granted full legal and residential custody of his children, an Ohio Court told him “you’re in Ohio now” when the children’s mother went to an Ohio court and said, “I’m the mother, I should have custody.

Not surprisingly, the Ohio Court, and with no legal authority whatsoever, granted her temporary custody of the children that he already had full custody of. How’s that for Ohio’s corrupted “Family Court” system.

As a result of Ohio asserting legal authority it didn’t have over that father’s Georgia case, the father (“Bill”) had to endure 5 separate custody trials that costs him between $40,000 and $45,000. And despite prevailing every time, he couldn’t get more than 2 1/2 days “visitation” every other week with a third child, a son, who was born in Ohio to a different mother.

Why? He proved himself to be a great father (hence the reason the Georgia court granted him full custody) and raised two children without assistance from their mother, and additionally he had a Georgia Court’s order that named him as the sole legal and residential parent.

There’s more to the story, and I hope that another organization (that I contacted) takes Bill’s case up and at least Blogs about it, as their writing is incredibly talented and offers a legal perspective as well given it’s done by an attorney.

Believe me when I say that I know the feeling when the light at the end of the tunnel is just that of another train that’s coming at you, head on, and to deliver yet another payload of destruction in life.

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Bill,

First and foremost, thanks for your acknowledgement and gratitude with regard to my advocacy, I sincerely appreciate your kind words. My advice to you is to take it one day at a time, as it will get better for you and your children in time, and please know that I’m being wholly sincere in saying that.

More than that, you need to find healthy ways to manage the crushing stress that’s brought about by the injustices and hatefulness of Ohio’s “Family Court” system.

I lost everything; 3 houses, a life time of perfect credit, my retirement savings, my job, my freedom (through incarceration for the first time in my life at the hands of “Family Court”) as well as, and most importantly, unfettered access to my precious daughter. But it’s not about me, it’s about all of us, and all of our children.

In all honesty, I’m thankful for what happened to me. Reason being, I can use it to demonstrate how broken and how unjust Ohio’s “Family Court” and “Child Support” Enforcement (aka Extortion) Agency are. Additionally, I can in turn use that to fight against the same which very hatefully, unjustly, and intentionally decimated both my daughter’s and my own life.

My “child support” order at one point was $1,400 per month. I went bankrupt as a result of it, and was destroyed financially to such as extent that I was forced to drive my cars on tires that were worn down so bad, that three of them literally exploded (on different occasions) while I was driving at 55 MPH or faster.

I couldn’t afford tires, so I did what anyone in that situation would be forced to do, I drove on them until they exploded. What other choice did I have? None. Due to my “child support” obligation at that time, I couldn’t afford to heat my home in winter where my daughter “visited” me, much less pay for car maintenance.

Additionally, there were times my daughter rode in that same vehicle. Was that in her’s or my own best interests, to have tire blowouts at high rates of speed? Of course not, but neither anyone within Ohio’s CSEA nor the Hamilton County Domestic Relations Court cared in the least.

Would anyone in “the system” had cared if my daughter would have been injured or one or both of us killed when those tires blew? Probably, but only in the sense to blame me for choosing to drive on those tires, and therefore “being a terrible and reckless father” for doing so.

You asked me, “Why?” The fact is, and as sick as it is, it’s because few within the system care about the fathers or the children of the same who are caught up in madness and insanity of “Family Court.” After seven years of enduring the insanity of it all myself, I’ve learned that the best way to manage the associated stress is to accept the system for what it is, and to simultaneously work tirelessly to change it.

In other words, it “is what it is” and accepting that fact is the first step to finding peace within yourself and thereby spreading the same throughout your own household. I understand that may sound ridiculous and very simple-minded, but please trust me when I say that there’s tremendous peace to be found in just accepting the system as the hateful, uncaring, and unjust out-of-control leviathan that it is.

Reason being, carrying around anger, hatred, resentment, bitterness, self-pity, etc harms only yourself and those around you, as well as gives the system even more power over your life.

Is the system wrong and unjust? Absolutely. Does it forever damage our children to such an extent it may in some way affect their psyche for the rest of their lives? I believe that’s a possibility.

But as the parent going through it, the best thing we can do for ourselves and our family (especially our children) is to accept the system for what it is, and to continuously work towards changing it.

Because stressing about it day in and day out, does nothing but increase the stress for you and all of those around you. Not to mention the damage to one’s health that stress causes.

The short answer to your question of “why?” is this; A PROFIT. It’s as simple as that. It pays the State of Ohio immensely, and through “child support” profits, to deem as many fathers as possible as noncustodial parents, and thereby force them to finance the fleecing of their own children.

Reason being, men tend to earn higher wages than do women. And the higher an obligor’s (aka child support payer) wage, the higher the State of Ohio’s profits off of the associated court-ordered “child support” payments.

I took the liberty to forward your story to a national father’s rights organization in the hopes that they’ll at least post a piece to their blog (with your permission) as they have the largest readership (with regards to father’s rights) in the world.

One of their writers (who’s also an attorney and a fantastic writer) expressed an interest to me in speaking with you about your story, so I therefore gave him your name and email address.

Sincerely,

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights

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Single Super Mom Struggles Morally with Child Support and Visitation

Some comments are so moving and compelling that I move them to the front page of the Blog. That, because I believe it’s imperative that as many as possible understand the moral dilemma that’s often faced by the many good and loving single moms out there. Those who deserve child support, and whom also must limit the father’s contact with the child(ren) involved so as to protect them and thereby act in the child(ren)’s best interest.

“Karen” is one such mom who posted what follows as a response to this post, and her original comment is found here, and although I re-posted it below, I’ve also made my comments throughout it. Finally, you may be thinking “well how do you know what she says is true, there are two sides to every story?” And indeed there are, three in fact; his side, her side, and the truth that’s found somewhere in between. That having been said, and despite it being human nature for all of us to “tilt the facts in our favor” when telling our side, I believe that Karen’s words are indeed truthful in context.

Finally, (and unfortunately) I’m well-versed in dealing with those whom are immersed in addiction (and in the various “drugs” of choice) and one thing is always true when it comes to dealing with an addict; the addict has only one and one concern; feeding their addiction. All else in life can usually “go to hell” as far as the addict is concerned.
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Hi,

I’m a newly separated mom to a silly, sweet 20 month old girl.

Ziva was born before her father and I were married.
In her short life time, we’re married and now separated.

He’s a struggling, recovering, relapsing cocaine addict.
He is verbally and emotionally abusive.
He is a pathological liar.
Quality time with the baby is in front of primetime tv or football.
He has never had a regular responsibility with the baby – not bath, daycare pickup or dropoff, feedings / meals, diaper changes, bedtime stories.
Their one tradition was napping on Sunday mornings on the couch while I went grocery shopping.

I didn’t know of his habits when we met or before I got pregnant.
I take full responsibility for my decisions.
I allowed him to move in.
I paid all expenses during his unemployment during my pregnancy.
I chose to keep this baby – and she is the BEST part of my life!

Congratulations for making that decision Karen, none of us would be here had our own mothers not made that choice. -Tony Fantetti

I married him after knowing of his habit and hoping he’d keep his commitment to clean it up and be a father to our baby.
I witnessed his lack of ability or interest to parent the baby … and I made myself think it was okay that he “enjoyed” her while I cared for her.

Unfortuately that’s typical of co-dependent behavior and hence makes one an “enabler.” However, such is often done with the best of intentions.” -Tony Fantetti

He has never once taken her to the park, on a walk, for an ice cream, to the pool on his own.

We are both 40 years old.
This is second marriage / family for both of us.
We both have 2 older kids (ages 6-11).
We met through our kids at church.

I’m a college grad.
Held professional jobs in technology and now healthcare industry in quality improvement.
I make good money. But being solely responsible for fulltime daycare is a serious financial obligation.
I have drained my savings (built before this relationship), changed/lowered our standard of living and will now face debt just to make ends meet.

Re-read the paragraph just above Karen, that right there should remove any qualms you have about taking the father to court for child support. However, and as I explain below, that introduces a different problem should you decide to take that route. -Tony Fantetti

He’s a high school graduate and now has a town government job.
Our town does a “good job” of overlooking drugs, pornography, work sex relations, and felonies in their HR hiring process and the same plus taking liberties with “work hours” once on the job.
Meaning, he’s not at risk of losing this job … and so he’s not going anywhere.
He makes enough to pay rent $800 month to a co-worker who doesn’t allow children.
He has never offered to pay any portion of the baby’s basic needs: food, daycare, medical insurance, clothes.

And that right there, along with his unwillingness to spend any quality time with your daughter makes him a genuine and indifferent deadbeat parent. And it’s the likes of him that causes all good and loving noncustodial moms and dads to be demonized in both the court of law and the court of public opinion
-Tony Fantetti

He has never bought her a holiday gift. Collectively, he hasn’t spent more than $50 on her since birth.

That’s both vile and unconscionable Karen. -Tony Fantetti

I believe that I have the following options available (knowing the father) and need ethical / moral / legal help choosing a path, please.
a. I can avoid contact with him, and he will likely make no attempt to see his daughter in exchange for not being legally ordered to financially support her. I believe this may be in the best emotional interest of my baby – at least until she can decide for herself whether she has interest in knowing him.
b. I can file for custody and support and make a case that he have very limited supervised visitation (as he does with older children by court order) and allow the baby to “know” her father, permit him the choice and opportunity to reset priorities, and get “help” financially with her basic needs.
c. I can seek support and then relocate with work far, far away! (Kind of kidding … but not really).

Please note that with regard to a,b and c Karen, what I offer you, is my humble opinion that I personally believe (and hope) is also a morally just one.

a. I agree that given his addiction, that choice in my opinion is surely in Ziva’s best interest, and I wouldn’t trust him alone with her. And not necessarily just because of him, but also because of the other addicts he’s using with and whom would have access to her.

b. Yes you can, but here’s the problem with that; now you’re introducing the court into your life, and thereby relinquishing much decision making to it for the next 16+ years should you choose that. Statistics are on your side, as mothers are granted sole custody in about 84% of cases nationwide. But here’s the problem, you can request limited visitation, and you may in fact get it. But do you really want him having her while he’s using? Additionally, what if the court decided to grant him a standard visitation order? Although the flip side to that is that he might not take advantage of it anyway.

Once that visitation is ordered, you’ll have to comply. And if his behavior gets worse, and to the point where Ziva’s in danger, that order will be in effect until the court modifies it. That having been said, and unless you represent yourself, you’re looking at probably at least $10,000 in legal fees for a full blown custody trial. I suspect you can get temporary orders for perhaps $3,000 – $5,000, but that’s still a lot of money as you know.

But again, if things get bad, and a court-ordered visitation order is in place, you could opt to defy the visitation schedule (that’s legally wrong) but you’d be in contempt of court. However, and in most courts not just in Ohio but across the nation, the courts generally look the other way when a mother refuses to allow a father to exercise his visitation rights.

The odds are once again in your favor, and perhaps nothing would happen if you did that, but if you choose to defy a visitation order and the court didn’t just “slap you on the wrist” and look the other way, you could be slapped with a fine and jail time (although there’s a “purge” condition) and be forced to pay his attorney’s fees if you’re found guilty. Again, I’m “not” giving legal advice, just my opinion based on what I’ve seen in countless cases.

c. Yes, you could, but I think that’s the worst option and here’s why. Suppose he finally cleans himself up, for good, and wants to be actively involved in Ziva’s life? Long distances between a noncustodial parent and the child(ren) usually end up with that parent completely (and permanently) falling out of the child’s life.

Even in cases where there’s cooperative parenting between both the custodial and noncustodial parents “and” they’re both local, the statistics are staggering with regard to the noncustodial parents. The majority of them eventually fall out of the child’s life as it’s very difficult to maintain a strong and close relationship with a child based on “hours per month” in vistation time.

I speak from experience when I say this; whether my daughter is 500 miles away or right around the block, that feeling of court induced (in most cases) isolation that accompanies being an “every other weekend parent” puts thousands of miles of distance between a good and loving parent and their child.

The same would be true if the child was only one street away from the noncustodial parent, as the biggest problem is that they’re not involved (and not by their own choice, but buy both naturally occuring and vengeful separation) in day-to-day decision making that affects the child. In short, the noncustodial parent is unaware of perhaps 95% or more of the things going on in their child’s life and it’s truly sad as it’s not by choice, but merely the nature of the beast.

Rest assured that when Ziva becomes an adult, she’s going to want to know who her biological father is as there will be a hole in her heart. Should that happen, and he’s not interested, you’ll be (I can tell you’re the type with a good heart) guilt ridden for the rest of your life, and Ziva will forever be missing a piece of her life; her biological father.

And that may very well happen anyway if he never stops using, but let that be on his shoulders not yours. Then, you can still be there as that loving mother you’ve always been, to help Ziva through the painful rejection she’ll surely experience should he decide not to be a part of her life.
-Tony Fantetti

My fear is that seeking assistance with child expenses equates to a life of continued anger, entitlement, manipulation, drama. Maybe that’s inevitable?

In my opinion yes, it is inevitable, so long as he’s and addict who’s actively using. Chances are, everything that goes wrong in is life will be “your fault” anyway so long as he’s using. -Tony Fantetti

I read a lot of the posting on your site before writing. I have never depended on ANYONE for financial security. Not my own folks for college or weddings. Never had a honeymoon. Don’t get manicures. Don’t want to ever enter the pool of CSMs. But am very, very tired of being Super Mom … and think that maybe I shouldn’t have to carry the load alone. If he’s not equipped to parent, maybe his only contribution is financial. And it “buys” me time to parent, rather than looking for additional work or short-changing my daughter of life opportunities.

No, you “should not by any means” be forced to carry that load alone. If there’s a case for a mom who deserved child support, yours is it. And you’re right; it does buy you time to parent Ziva. She needs at least one good parent in her life as much as possible, and she’s not getting that if she has to be in extended daycare so you can earn more money by working additional hours just to make ends meet. If he decides (as he already has) that he doesn’t want to be sober and contribute to the time and costs of raising her, then that’s what court ordered child support is for.
-Tony Fantetti

Other considerations:
I am his second wife. He has court ordered child support for his other 2 children. It’s minimal (in my mind) at $160 / mo. But the mother has no living expenses and chooses not to work.
He regularly offers her additional money “under the table” for additional visitation time … and before our relationship … for sex. She often accepts it.
They take each other to court twice a year to fight over visitation. He consistently asks for more. And then consistently doesn’t show up for what little he’s granted.
He’s currently entitled to 2 weekends a month, but he only chooses to take his 1 hour weekly supervised visitation and no overnights.
He has IRS debt that is drawn from his income. He owes EVERYONE. He will always pay himself (drugs, dinners, entertainment first), others as ordered by law.

I am financially responsible for my older 2 children.
Their father pays child support as his income allows. It’s always used 100% on the kids.
And they know that Dad makes it possible for them to have karate or dance lessons or school book orders.
If it comes, it comes. If it doesn’t, we don’t count on it.
Their father does more for and with them now then he ever did when married.

Please help. Money is one issue … but my internal dilemma is really one of principal. Is it “right” that he should be held to some level of accountability to this child? Is it “protective” or “possessive” of me to want to distance my daughter from her father? Isn’t it better to be “happy” (away) than “right” (assisted)?

Yes it’s morally right and just that he should be held to equal accountability with regard to Ziva. As it presently stands, it’s you with 100% accountability and he at 0% and that is what’s not right and is therefore morally wrong.

“No”, in my humble opinion, if what you’ve stated is true, and he’s actively using coke, then no it’s not “protective” (in a wrong sense) or “possessive” of you to want to distance Ziva from him. I personally feel that it’s the right thing to do, but moving her away from him (over a long distance) wouldn’t be right in my humble opinion as the day could come when he cleans up, wants to see her, but can’t for financial or other reasons. -Tony Fantetti

This puzzles me Karen, and I believe that you probably already know the answer, but are just hoping it’s not what I suggest. You said, “Isn’t it better to be “happy” (away) than “right” (assisted)?”

Happy for whom, you or Ziva? At 20 months, she’s incapable of understanding what the difference is between “home in Ohio” or “home in Florida” would be. So “happy” with regard to Ziva and locale is irrelevant, because “home is home” to her.

But on the other hand, “happy for Karen” is a completely different story and one that is in fact directly related to locale. You’re dealing with a very emotionally abusive addict who’s also a pathological liar (as most addicts are) and who probably disgusts and sickens you to no end. But unfortunately, he’s the same one who is also the father of your daughter, and whom I also suspect that you may have had reservations about marrying to begin with.

Allow me to start with this Karen; no one, and I mean no one deserves the unwarranted and never-ending, very hateful, and equally ugly blame and emotional abuse, that an addict dishes out to those around them. However, there’s a big difference between getting away from it, and moving far away from it unless there’s a true fear of imminent bodily harm or ongoing job interference that would prohibit one from living locally.

With that having been said, and in my humble opinion, I believe that he should be made to pay for half of all daycare costs associated with you working at your primary job, and 100% of the daycare costs beyond that. Additionally, he should be forced to pay 50% of all other expenses associated directly with Ziva.

If that means you must use the Child Support Enforcement Agency (CSEA) to collect his financial responsibility through a child support order, then do it, and without any shame whatsoever, because you should have none. Although when and if that child support comes down, if you feel that the amount ordered is not morally just and is excessive, then you should return some of it. In short, you, not a judge or some CSEA case worker, must determine what a morally just amount of child support would be.

Also, you could try threatening him with taking him to court for child support, but don’t do so in a provoking way, just be matter of fact, and see where it goes. But since he’s snorting coke, the chances of him regularly sending you an amount that you decide is fair is about as good as hell freezing over. With him being an addict who’s using, putting his money up his nose to “create snowstorms” will be concern number one, not his financial responsibility towards his innocent, precious, and silly daughter.

What you can count on though is the one lie after another that he’ll tell you about the money he’s “going to send.” The lies will be regular, but the money won’t be, if at all.

That having been said, you working more hours to make ends meet is not morally right in my opinion. I don’t care if Ziva was an accident, at least half the costs of raising her is his responsibility. And in your case, I think the only chance of you seeing dime of that money is if the Child Support “Extortion” Agency takes it directly out of his check.

You don’t need the courts to collect that, just contact your local CSEA. You’d only need the court to establish a visitation schedule, and that’s his problem. In your case, and because he’s using, I think you need to decide what’s reasonable visitation, but never do so out of vengeance or hatred. Only do so out of Ziva’s best interest and your own personal safety, and don’t ever put yourself in harm’s way.

Finally, about moving far away with Ziva; I don’t think I need to answer that for you Karen. I get the sense you already know the answer to that. And that may change down the road. But for today, think 20 years down the road, and assume you did in fact move far away. And out of nowhere, Ziva asked you, “Mom, why did you move away from dad?” Think of that answer Karen. And after you told Ziva your reasons, would you wholeheartedly and without any doubt whatsoever believe yourself?

With respect to “option c” Karen and if you don’t mind my being honest, I don’t think you struggle with the idea of taking the money nor with moving far away Karen. I suspect that perhaps your struggle (for Ziva’s sake) lies with the morality of moving far away and without just cause for doing so having first been found in your own heart.

Sincerely,

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights
Email: tony.fantetti@ocffr.org

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Words of Wisdom from Single Mom who Raised Four Alone

Editor’s Note: The single mom who wrote the piece below originally posted it as a comment to this lawsuit against the State of Ohio.  However, I  decided to post it on the front page as her words are very moving in my humble opinion.

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I wanted to say some things about child support. I believe that children should be supported by both parents, not just one paying his or her ex monies that they can use however they feel they want too.

And for those parents who do pay child support it should never be so much money they cant live comfortably and provide for that same child in their own home as well. The whole child support system is in SERIOUS, DESPERATE need of reconfiguring.

I am a mother who was a single parent raising her children on very limited funds, child support was ordered but none has ever been received. But, I took care of my children on my little salary if I can do it on what I made anyone is able to do it as well!

I am not saying that it was fair or right to do it all by myself and their father not HELP support them some, just making a point we made it, and by the way I didnt get foodstamps- I worked made 7.50 hr and provided for a family of 4.

If my children would have received any child support it would be have been used on them as this money is NOT for me! I think I am one of the few mothers who may feel this way as I have seen so many women and some men mis-use the child support system and the money they should be using on their childrens’ needs, but use it for themselves.

I also want to say I am not tooting my own horn or trying to make myself look good, life was hard as a single parent sole provider but we made it and we were ok.

I have also taken notice how some women have said men should not have other families or basically should not go on with their lives because their child support to their child should be their number one priority-shame on you, you women who feel this way.

A man who is happy and moving on or having other children does not mean he wont love his other children, how about you, does this mean if you move on, remarry or have another relationship or child you may not fully love your first child(ren) how stupid to say or think!!!

I have also noticed because my husband and I have ex spouses who abuse the system- that the woman seems to feel she should have an entitlement because she has the children.

What my main beef is -is when either parent uses their children as a paycheck, or way of life for themselves and the child support system does absolutely nothing about it-they just make it easy to do and they should be punished as well, sitting there in their state job with excellent pay and benefits making life extremely hard for the parents who do try to support their children while the ex spouse, partner is living it up spending all this money that is supposed to be taking care of their children!!!

Where is the accountability to the children????Where? I know of a woman who lived off of her child for years- moved countless times in an out of homes rent free at times and for two years her child no longer lived with her and she was still collecting child support.

The father tried and tried to get it stopped through the county but the only thing they would tell him was to get a lawyer!!! hmm, thought they were supposed to be non biased (this is their claim) and tell me how it was in the best interest of the child for her to continue collecting the money and not go back to the father who had the child living with him full time and was basically paying double.

It took a small fortune to hire an attorney and get it stopped. Tell me how did she get away with it? The law is you tell the csea of your new address, your change of custody even if its not court ordered the physical custody has changed -you are to report!!!! This woman received thousands and thousands of dollars for those 2 yrs and her daughter NEVER received anything out of it at all!!!!

The court finally ordered a stop to her receiving the child support but she doesnt have to pay all of the money back- they sent them to mediation first and the man thought agreeing to less back would speed up the ending of payments still being taken from his check, did nothing of the sort just allowed her to get away with so much.

I just wish that the children- which are truly the ones who suffer most would stop being used as pawns, and paychecks but seen as the true things they are and that is precious children who need the love and support of both parents(in most cases, I know there are situations this is not best, abuse etc) and even though the parents are no longer together should find a way to get along to the absoute best way possible for their own childrens sake!!!

Ladies, who collect child support this is not an all out bash to you, I know there are other women out there who would never manipulate their children and do not use them as pawns and personal paychecks but honestly the majority do, and you know some yourself. I have seen it time and time again with my own eyes and heard it out of their mouths.

There isnt one of us who walks the face of this earth who is a perfect person or perfect parent we will and do make mistakes but listen, when you are a selfish or greedy parent your children suffer from this emotionally and sometimes physically (maybe no food, shelter etc) dont use your children as pawns or paychecks, and if you do receive child support REMEMBER its CHILD support not alimony and it should be used to provide for YOUR child(ren)

Hoping for Change

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Three Child Support Moms (CSMs) Attempt to Defend the Indefensible – Themselves

First and foremost I wish to state that yes, I do recognize that there are many legitimate situations where child support is warranted, especially in the case of the true deadbeat parents (not just dads, but also moms) who like the animals that they are, have abandoned their children in all regards.

With having been said, I do not direct any of what I wrote herein to those good and loving single mothers receiving child support, who were forced to separate themselves and their children from their fathers due to circumstances that were beyond their control.

Therefore, if you’re reading this and you are indeed one of those moms, please know that none of what I’ve written is directed at you, nor does it in any way apply to you, as I fully believe that you had to act, in order to be acting in the best interest of your children as any good and loving mom would do.

What I state in the forthcoming is only directed to the likes of those I address below who appear to be a textbook example of true “child support moms” (CSMs).

CSMs are those who absolve themselves of all personal responsibility related to the birth of their children as if it “just happened”, and it’s always the ‘man’s fault’. In other words, they somehow got pregnant because of the man’s carelessness, but never their own.

They use phrases like, “he got me pregnant” as if they played no part in the process whatsoever. So what happened, did he walk by you and you suddenly became pregnant as if by magic? Did he sprinkle pixie dust on you whilst you were sleeping and that miraculously impregnated you? Were you a willing participant? Was he a magician? Was “your” baby conceived through immaculate conception?

They accuse the man “who got them pregnant” of being irresponsible for not using birth control, but they completely (and hypocritically) dismiss their own choice not to use their own birth control in the same situation wherein they became pregnant. Does that make sense to you?

“HE GOT ME PREGNANT” they scream as they’re pointing an accusatory finger in shame at him. From there and until they collect their last “child support” check, they play the role of a victim (and increasingly so) with each passing year as they demand more and more “child support.”

As if they were an unwilling and unknowing participant in an act of willful intercourse involving unprotected sex, or where birth control failed. “I need more ‘child support’. I’m a ‘single-mom’…by choice…funny how they always leave the most important detail out of that statement; by choice.

Next, and after hypocritically dismissing their own responsibility for getting pregnant “unexpectedly.”And that, while completely ignoring their unilateral decision to kick her child’s father out of their lives,  they then demand that the man involved not only pay 100% of the financial support for “their” child, but pay such exorbitant amounts of child support that it supports her lifestyle, and as if the child would see any of it anyway.

It’s often such ridiculous amounts of child support that in reality it’s nothing more than “mommy support” aka “mommy welfare” as it more than pays for all of the child’s expenses and all of hers too in some cases.

That having been said, the true financial cost of raising a child include nothing more than direct expenses that are spent on that child alone, and they should be shared equally by both parties involved.  What they don’t include are items such as, rent, a mortgage, utilities etc, as such supports the household. And everyone supporting such (including the child support paying noncustodial (NC) mom or dad) has those same expenses.

Finally, these same CSMs in many cases kick the father out of his child’s life, deny him “visitation” and or access to the child, and continue to demand more and more of his money (in the form of child support of course) that in most cases is never spent on the child, but is in fact “mommy support” or “mommy welfare” at dad’s expense.

The most hypocritical of it all, is that these very same CSMs went through the courts and DEMANDED sole custody of the children involved. I have a novel idea for you CSMs, stop complaining that you can’t steal enough in “child support” and instead give the father sole custody and you pay him nothing! Problem solved! See how easy that is? How does that work for you? What??? It doesn’t??? Why not??? Ohh,  you don’t want to lose your newfound tax-free (at dad’s expense of course) income windfall now do you???

Think about it. You would no longer have to complain about not receiving “child support” from the very same man whom you forcefully separated from his children (against his will in most cases) using the strong-arm of the courts.

That said, and given how many truly pressing issues there are that warrant my attention, I’d normally not waste precious time responding to a Conga Line of child support moms (CSMs) who are nothing more than rabble rousing income stealing whiners.

Three of them in fact, who conferred and decided to post nonsense as comments rather than well-reasoned and logical points with which to debate with. And there’s a very good reason they’ve posted such weak “arguments” as they have; it’s because there’s no defending those CSM’s despicable behavior, so they’re left with nothing to support their position.

So when one can’t defend on logic, merit, principle, and morals, what are they left with? Only the baseless attacking of that which they disagree with, because as the saying goes, “the truth hurts.”

With that having been said, I’ll respond to each posters comments this time, but am adding this disclaimer which is directed not only to three below who merely want to engage in childish tactics, but to others with the same mindset; I’m not going to make a habit out of wasting my time responding to stupid comments such as these.

I welcome debate, and I welcome opposing opinions. However, what I don’t welcome are the childish comments of those who lack the wherewithal to formulate a position based on merits, and whereby they’ve failed to state a factual position on which they disagree with me.

More specifically, the holier-than-thou childish comments such as the forthcoming that were posted as comments to this blog entry. are of the type to which I’m referring.

LeTisha
2011/10/14 at 07:51

“I would like to know how long has it been since the divorce…how old is the child(ren) with your first wife and why did you got get a ready made family that you had to support and end up having another kid when you already had a financial obligation that was burdensome? -LeTisha

Hi LeTisha,
My first response two your first two questions is that it’s none of your business. And truthfully? I’m utterly perplexed as to why you think it’s any of your business. To your next question, “why did you got get a ready made family that you had to support,” my response is, “that too is none of your business, but surprisingly, I still want to answer it.” That said, my answer is, “because I decided to.” I see absolutely no point in your question, no point whatsoever; and at it’s basic level, it makes zero sense and is utterly stupid.

Are you implying that because my ex-spouse broke a contract (a marriage is legally binding contract “don’t cha know?”) then used the courts to pilfer my income through “child support”, and removed my daughter from my life, that I should never marry, or perhaps not marry when I did? If that’s so, then to you I say this; That’s once again really stupid, and again-none of your business, and who are you to tell or suggest to me, or question me or any father with regard to what to do or not to do?

Why do you engage in sexual activity without employing proper birth control ahead of time? See how that “none of your business stuff” works? How about you mind your own business huh? Based on what you go on to say below, you’re obviously doing a very poor job at that.

Why did you have children? If you’re going to whine and complain about not being able to generate a profit with your uterus, after all, that’s all “child support” is in most cases, an unearned, undeserved profit that’s generated by a golden uterus, then don’t have children! How does that one work for ya?

If you choose to have children outside of marriage, or choose to unilaterally dissolve a marriage, then give the father full custody so you no longer have to boo-hoo about trying to collect “mommy welfare” which is all that “child support” is right? Lets not kid ourselves nor beat around the bush here okay? This is a blog where big people talk, so keep in mind that big people might say very harsh albeit wholly truthful things, because that’s what needs to be done to get the truth out there, got it?

So the child(ren) of your previous marriage should go without because you are remarried with a family to provide for? -LeTisha

Who said my daughter should go without, I didn’t? Additionally, who says she doesn’t go without and despite the “child support” that’s extorted from me? I didn’t. What you offer is nothing more than a bunch of baseless accusations and assumptions. Can you tell me that my daughter doesn’t want for nothing because of what I’m forced to pay monthly for having her taken out my life against my will? Do you know anything about how or where she lives or what she does or doesn’t have? Have you any sense whatsoever? Are you an idiot? Do you believe that a law should be mandated whereby one should have to pass an IQ test to bear children?

If your wife does not work then how is she received a tax return and $920.00 is a significant amount to receive from the Bush Stimulus package, meaning she was making a significant amount of money while employed. -LeTisha

Really? Say it ain’t so? Can you also tell me in what year she had to make that “significant amount of money” and if it could pay only the utilities and a $1,300/mo mortgage? Also, what were all of the guidelines behind the Bush tax cuts?

Secondly, how is you receive $1600.00 a month in unemployment compensation, with a family of 5 but don’t qualify for Medicaid ( even if you don’t your kids do and they pay for braces) or Foodstamps.. -LeTisha

I received $1,600.00 per month in unemployment compensation because I applied for it. Neat concept huh? Kinda like how all of you child support moms steal child support, by applying for it, right? In truth though, I only received $800.00 month, but thanks for asking, seriously. Although I hope my answer didn’t confound you as I sense that you’re easily turned in endless circles.

It was supposed to be $1,600.00 per month ($400.00 wk), but the State seized half of it ($1,600 – $800 = $800) for “child support.” And I didn’t qualify for Medicaid because I was said to have a “child support” (aka mommy support) arrears because they wouldn’t apply our seized tax returns. Therefore, that alleged arrears disqualified me from receiving any public assistance. And one more “small” reason I didn’t qualify? Uhm, I didn’t have custody? Do you get Medicaid or food stamps for your neighbor’s children? You know what? Don’t answer that…

I live in Ohio, make more than you do, and my one child qualifies for Medicaid…sorry but your story doesn’t seem to add up..seems as if you are looking for a pity party…I bet there is more to the story along with more income somewhere and that’s how your CS got increased..-LeTisha

On the income issue, how is it you foolishly assert that you “make more than me” when you in fact have absolutely no idea what my income is? What a foolish statement to make.

On the Medicaid issue, that’s the difference between you and I, and for that matter, between myself and most child support (aka mommy welfare) moms, I would never accept food stamps or “free” health care, because that child is yours and the father’s responsibility, not mine the taxpayer’s.

Not only do I happily support my own family, I’m now forced to support yours, and that’s wrong and both morally and financially very irresponsible of you. Have you no shame? Nor would I accept “child support” because I believe in personal responsibility, taking care of myself, and taking care of and financially supporting my own children. Neat concept huh? I can’t wait until that one catches on with you child support moms!
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Kimberly York
2011/10/14 at 06:44

While I feel sorry for you I am on the otherside of the coin.
My son needs braces badly but, my x cant even pay the 154.00 a month child support. He quit his job back 10 years ago the day after childsupport was ordered and is working under the table.
He owes 20,558.00. In back childsupport I have had to work two jobs so my children could have the thing they need.
Im soory but here are a few questions on youre issues? Why are you in arrears, do you not feel any responsibility towards youre child?

Hi Kimberly! Who said I’m in arrears? Last time I checked, I was about $6,000 overpaid. See how ridiculous you look by dropping in like an idiot on a freak parade, not knowing anything about me, forming an opinion based on one post, then posting a comment (I use that term very loosely) about me?

While I feel sorry for you I am on the otherside of the coin. -Kimberly York

Oh no, you don’t Kimmy, and I wouldn’t brag about being a thief okay? Also, stop patronizing me as I’m a whole lot smarter than you think.

My son needs braces badly but, my x cant even pay the 154.00 a month child support. He quit his job back 10 years ago the day after childsupport was ordered and is working under the table. -Kimberly York

I think I can see why he’s your ex, but that aside, and assuming I’m wrong and you instead kicked him out of your son’s life and not the other way around, why should he have to pay you anything then? Why don’t you stop complaining and give your ex sole custody you mooch? That way, you don’t have to worry about collecting mommy welfare (oopsie, I mean “child support”) and then you can learn at what (28-34 years old?) to put your big girl undies on and support yourself?

Novel concept isn’t it? Instead of you child support moms (CSMs aka mommy welfare moms) constantly complaining about “child support” that God (and all of us) knows you spend on yourselves anyway, on things like cigarettes, beer, clothes, vacations, manicures, pedicures etc etc; you get a job and support your household on your own? Come on, think about it, you may actually like it as you’ll finally feel like an adult!

He owes 20,558.00. In back childsupport I have had to work two jobs so my children could have the thing they need. -Kimberly York

I don’t know Kimberly (can I call you Kim, it’s a lot less typing for me okay Kim?), it seems to me that you’ve just contradicted yourself. You say here that you’ve had to work two jobs so your children can have the things they need (by the way, welcome to the real world where the adults play!), yet just above, you state that your son “needs” braces “badly.” So obviously, you don’t provide the things your children need. Perhaps you need stop being so self-centered and get a third job or get two other jobs that pay better and start providing for your children?

And if you think I’m being facetious or sarcastic, think again. If that were my son, I’d be working three, four, five,  or however many jobs it took to get my son in braces, rather than wasting someone else’s time by complaining like a child on their blog about your ex not paying his “child support.” Truth be told Kimberly, I think there’s a good chance that you’re…….

So many of you child support moms talk out of both sides of your mouths just like you’re doing here. On one side, you complain that you don’t get your “child support” (aka mommy welfare) and that your exes don’t pay because they’re unemployed or whatever, but no matter what their reasons for not paying, they’re always inexcusable in the CSM’s eyes.

For example, a CSMs ex is involuntarily unemployed, so he can no longer (but wants to) pay his child support. In such scenarios, you CSMs scream, whine, complain and demand that he should go to jail because he’s not paying his child support, and that his unemployment is no excuse for not paying his support.

However, hypocrites such as yourself then turn around and say, “I can’t afford to pay for braces because my ex doesn’t pay his child support“, and you therefore choose not to pay for them. So your argument is that his involuntarily(in many cases)  unemployment is not a valid excuse for not paying you your mommy support, but on the same hand argue that you aren’t getting the braces because you aren’t getting the support?

Do you see the utter hypocrisy there? Lack of income (unemployment) in his case isn’t a valid excuse for him not paying child support, but lack of income (child support) in your case is a valid excuse for not paying for your son’s much needed braces?

In many areas $154.00 per month (which you in reality probably do get for child support) would pay for braces. But you ‘choosing’ not to get your son his much needed braces makes you appear more evil than he, because by our own admission he’s unemployed, and you admit to having two jobs (at some point) while your ex according to you has none.  If you really aren’t “passing Go” and collecting that free money, then cut back as needed to afford those braces hypocrite! I would if he were my child! You appear to be more of a deadbeat than he.

I would never deny my child something so important as braces on the sorry excuse that “you aren’t getting child support“, that’s inexcusable and despicable. So you choose to allow your child to go without a much needed orthodontic procedure and use the pathetic and irresponsible excuse, “I can’t get “my” child support?” There are many noncustodial moms and dads who are homeless, or they go without heat in winter or food on their own table  because they paid their child support. Do you see what I’m getting at? Of course you don’t, so I’ll explain it. Those child support paying parents put their child’s needs above their own.

Yet on the other side of your mouths, and out of utter selfishness and being self-centered, you whine about “not being able to afford braces” and why? Because, you can’t collect your “child support.” Guess what? That’s no excuse for making your son suffer by having to go without those braces in his mouth. Did you get that?

Go out and get another job or go out and pick garbage (just as I did to put food in my daughter’s mouth years ago) by selling what I pulled from others’ trash in yard sales. I know your type, and I know them all too well. Even if your ex paid what he was ordered to, you’d still be spending those “child support” dollars on yourself as I suspect you are now, and your son would still be without his braces. You’re despicable. Don’t bring a child into this world that you aren’t willing to support.

Even if your ex was paying what he was supposed to, you’d still be complaining that he didn’t pay enough and ‘your’ son still wouldn’t have his braces. I know your type, it’s all about you and your selfish greed for your own benefit.

Im soory but here are a few questions on youre issues? Why are you in arrears, do you not feel any responsibility towards youre child? -Kimberly York

You’re 100% correct, you are sorry, but more than you’ll ever know, trust me. Any parent that would deny their child braces as you are is indeed a sorry excuse for a parent. And read my blog before you post your mindless garbage as a comment, I’m not in arrears, I was nearly $8,0000 overpaid and am still nearly $6,000 so.

And I’m also “soory”why don’t you feel any responsibility for your son? Stay with me here okay? I know it’s going to be difficult for you, but I’m going to walk you through your logic here alright?

I personally no nothing of the details of your case, IE if you block “visitation” don’t allow your son to see or speak to his father, although I suspect you’ll allege “he wants nothing to do with ‘my’ son”. But please forgive me for my frankness, you strike me as the type to claim such while you’re intentionally and very purposefully preventing him from having a relationship with ‘your’ son.

That said, lets stipulate that your ex (or one night stand?) is really not paying child support and is therefore acting irresponsibly okay? Did you get that? I’m agreeing with you Kim.  So based on him being irresponsible by not paying you mommy support; I’m sorry, I mean “child support”, you argue that your son needs braces, but you can’t afford them. So neither you nor I approve of his irresponsibility, it’s inexcusable and it’s wrong.

But do you know what else I disapprove of? Your irresponsibility and selfishness. Just because your ex doesn’t pay his child support, doesn’t excuse your irresponsibility in choosing not to purchase braces for your son. Again, you admit, that he needs braces, but what you won’t admit is that you choose not to pay for his braces. Don’t tell me that between working two jobs, you can’t (or couldn’t) afford something so important to him. Don’t tell me that you can’t go without something like your new shoes, clothes, cigarettes, (you strike me as the smoking type, no pun intended) pop, cell phone, jewelery, beer, shopping trips, makeup, or any number of items that you purchase regularly with disposable income.

At it’s core, your logic is, “I’m not supporting my son (by refusing to get him braces) because my ex won’t support him, and that’s selfish, self-centered, despicable and very unloving. Why? It’s so because you’re choosing to allow your son to go to school or wherever without a mouth that’s in need of serious orthodontic work (remember, you said he needs braces) that you refuse to pay (by choosing not to afford them) for because your ex refuses to pay you. Your ex’s irresponsibility does NOT excuse yours. In fact, in my opinion, yours is worse because you know he needs braces and your ex may not if he’s not involved in your son’s life.

Who besides you (an utter hypocrite) implied or said that I didn’t feel any responsibility for my child? Do you feel any responsibility for your son? More specifically, to pay for his braces? Obviously not. Or do you attempt to justify such an hateful action by refusing his braces because you allege that your ex refuses to pay “child support.” Do you know what that makes you? Not only no better than him, but worse than him.

You talk about how you wont have any money to provide entertainment for youre child oooh that really makes me sorry for you, not. -Kimberly York

You “talk” and thereby through it, prove yourself to be a very childish, selfish, and mindless individual. You know who I feel sorry for? Your son, because he needs braces and you won’t pay for them. I wonder, is he extremely self-conscious about his smile that his mother doesn’t concern herself with?

You are currently living the way alot of us single moms live hope you enjoy it!!! -Kimberly York

Boo hoo, cry me a river huh? Those like you try as you may want to present yourself as some type of hero and victim, when in fact the opposite is true; you’re villains. Not only have most of you kicked the father out of “his” child’s lives, via the strong-arm of the court’s, you steal his income through mommy welfare (aka “child support”) spend the money on yourselves, raise the children in less than desirable (and in some cases utterly deplorable conditions) in fatherless havens that are anything but.

And if that weren’t bad enough, you get together, sit around, and complain about not being able to steal enough of his income through “child support,” and devise more ways (like lying about daycare) to do so.

Look around and see the decadence on display in America today. What do you see? Child after child that’s “fatherless” because many a CSM has decided that “her” child doesn’t need a father. Then, as the child grows up, they witness first hand the misandry that’s so prevalent in those fatherless pits where behind one door after the next (just like a Price is Right horror show) is just another pathetic CSM who chose to deprive her child(ren) of a father. Then they wonder why so many boys grow up with discipline problems, get into trouble, are no respecter of persons and ultimately end up incarcerated.

Why is it you fathers think you can have all the fun with youre children but no of the finacial responsibility. -Kimberly York

Who besides a child support mom like yourself would foolishly claim that the hell we must go through (because of CSMs such as you) in order to see and be a part of our precious child’s life is “having all the fun?” Do you really think that dealing with a CSM such as yourself is a fun process for the father or the children involved? Why do you child support moms all think that kicking a father out of his child’s life, stealing his income, and preventing him from having contact with his child is OK, justifiable, righteous and fun?

My x says hes making me rich if he pays his support. Believe me 154.00 a month isnt making me rich by any means and just barily pays for my sons school lunches. Grow up, put youre big boy pants on and go out there and find a job maybe two like some of us single moms have to and support youre children!!!!!

And that’s what it’s all about isn’t it? Getting rich off of a father’s money through extorted “child support” right? All of which is you spend on yourself to begin with in about 65% of cases as studies have shown. Here’s you, a CSM who refuses to get her son braces, lecturing me, a father who’s about $6,000 overpaid in “child support” about supporting “youre (sic) children?”

How about you stop complaining about how much money you can’t steal from the man who statistically speaking you probably kicked out or your son’s life, get off your lazy rear end, get another job and get your son the braces he so desperately needs? I would work ten jobs if that’s what it took to get my child in braces rather than deny them as you willingly do.

Perhaps it’s you who is the deadbeat, because $154 per month would pay for braces. And if you’re “so poor”, then why aren’t you packing your son’s lunches, is it because the taxpayers are paying for those too? Also, funny how you can afford a computer system and monthly high speed internet service, but you “can’t afford” your son’s braces. I bet you also have cable tv or satellite don’t you you thieving hypocrite.

bri
2011/10/14 at 00:06
Only problem with your story is…… and it’s a sincere question but if you were working why did they show up to your job and arrest you? I am truly sorry but NO C.S.E does that if you’re paying even a minimal portion of your income. Might be a little more to the story????????? Maybe you fell on hard times….. But somehow you still got behind and obviously failed to support your daughter, at all, for at least 3 months. I know the laws of support enforcement. When you failed to support your daughter those months, we you supporting yourself and new family? That my friend….. is wrong. Now I’m sure I’m like soooo way off on this but truth is…. Even if you pay 5 dollars a month, every month, they won’t arrest you. That is fact.

Only problem with you “bri” is your limited intellectual capacity. My story doesn’t add up, or are you without the necessary cognitive ability to do the addition? It makes perfect sense if you have intelligence, read more than post on the blog, then make a fool of yourself by commenting like a child.

I am truly sorry but NO C.S.E does that if you’re paying even a minimal portion of your income. -bri

Yes, you’re correct bri, you are truly sorry. It’s so obvious that you’re so because I can tell that you’re such without ever having met you. That aside, who said the C.S.E. did that? I didn’t. In fact, I believe I said “the system” did right? Can you read, or do you just make things up as you go along?

Also, since you make the false claim that “NO C.S.E. does that if you’re paying even a minimal portion of your income,” can you tell my why any child support payment that’s even $1 less than the amount is considered a missed payment in Ohio? Can you tell me why there are currently fathers in Ohio prisons who did pay “a minimal portion of their income?” Of course you can’t, you’re a lying idiot.

Can you explain to me what a “purge order” is and what happens when you can’t, not don’t want to, but can’t comply? Of course you can’t, because you don’t even know what I’m talking about do you? Nope, just like your friend above, you just make things up and because “you” assert “that’s a fact”,  and you’re really foolish enough to believe that not just I, but others will actually believe you right?

You know what the “fact” is here? You’re so full of it that not only are your eyes are brown, you don’t even know what you’re talking about. That bri, is the only fact in your “story.” You nothing about the law or child support collections. You’re simply the typical far less than stellar CSM who is most likely a terrible and abusive parent.

“But somehow you still got behind and obviously failed to support your daughter, at all, for at least 3 months.-bri”

Is that so bri? Were you there? Do you know me personally? What is “supporting your daughter,” what does that mean? I’ll tell you what it means coming from a thieving child support mom (CSM) such as yourself; what it means is a leeching CSM such as you didn’t get her stolen monthly “child support” stipend.

Your greedy motives are so exceedingly blatant, that they’re as clearly bright and illuminant as is the North Star. You know why? I’ll explain it to you using your own words to convict you of being the vile and loathsome wretch that you are.

Take notice of your words just above where you state, “…and obviously failed to support your daughter at all for at least three months.” It’s interesting how you equate entirely “supporting” a child with only dollars. Allow me to explain that to you. You accuse me (fallaciously and falsely I might add) of failing to support my daughter “at all.” Obviously, your idea of supporting a child entirely (within the scope of the duties as a noncustodial parent) is limited to only sending money to a leech like you under the pretense of “child support.”

That said, isn’t talking with, encouraging, spending time with, playing with dolls, and having tea parties with my daughter also supporting her? Not in your eyes is it, you money grubbing reprobate. How about helping her with her homework, buying her clothes, putting food on the table, providing a roof over her head, aren’t all of those things supporting her? Nope, not in the eyes of a vile child support mom like you though right? To a degenerate such as you, “supporting a child” is nothing more than you collecting child support that’s used for your own purposes, not those of the child(ren) involved.

I don’t know you, I’ve never met you, but I do know this; any “parent” who equates supporting a child with sending money (aka mommy welfare/’child support) only, is usually the same type of parent who at the receiving end of those dollars is most likely spending them all on herself. You know how I know that? It’s simple. Any decent good and loving noncustodial parent who has any morals and would never make a comment that by its context clearly asserts that the only way to “support” a child is with money.

How about you talk to some kids who were raised by wealthy parents, and had everything they could ever want for, with the exception of that which mattered most; their parents. They had parents, but their parents were  never around and therefore chose to employ handlers (nannies, housekeepers etc) for their children and the handlers became surrogate parents to the kids.

So do you think children in those situations would define “supporting them” as only providing them money after they were provided with everything they ever wanted in a materialistic sense? You selfish CSMs who do nothing but spend the “child support” on themselves are so easy to spot, because you always equate supporting (in its entirety) a child with only money.

I know the laws of support enforcement. When you failed to support your daughter those months, we you supporting yourself and new family? That my friend….. is wrong. Now I’m sure I’m like soooo way off on this but truth is…. Even if you pay 5 dollars a month, every month, they won’t arrest you. That is fact.-bri

No, you don’t know the laws of support enforcement as you’re not even from Ohio you lying filth. You also lie about your inference that I wasn’t paying support at that time because I was. Had you read other posts before making an utter fool of yourself as you so clearly have, you would have learned that I was jailed for contempt on a matter that was NOT related to “child support.” Additionally, I was in fact overpaid at that time as well where you assumed I was jailed for nonsupport when I in fact wasn’t.  Do you see how that works you ignorant buffoon?

Would you like for me to continue to demonstrate just how immeasurably stupid the rest of your “logic” is as you ramble on in your incoherent and inherent stupidity?

You also said, “When you failed to support your daughter those months, we (sic) you supporting yourself and new family? That my friend….. is wrong.-bri” Even though I didn’t fail to support my daughter in any manner (despite you defining support as only mommy welfare at the teat of an ex) during the time you inferred that I did, you assert that, “it’s wrong” to support myself and new family.

First, define support genius. Is “support” picking garbage to put food on the table? Is support no utilities? Also, did I choose to kick my daughter out of my life so that I could be extorted for “child support?” Did I choose to have my contact with my daughter limited to certain days and times of the week? Did I walk out of my daughter’s life, or was I kicked out through the strong-arm of the court and thereby unwillingly forced into limited contact via a “visitation order?”

No you clown, I didn’t go willingly. So why is it when a pathetic thieving child support mom such as yourself unilaterally decides to kick a father out of his child’s life against his will and by using the strong-arm of the courts, that you should be paid and thereby financially rewarded for your vile and despicable actions? Actions whereby you’ve unilaterally decided to cheat yet another child out of a father while they grow up?

That aside, do you assert that I shouldn’t provide a roof over my “new families” head, and that I shouldn’t feed them or myself so we all can starve to death? Because as you asked, “When you failed to support your daughter those months, we (sic) you supporting yourself and new family? That my friend….. is wrong.-bri” Really??? Is that wrong bri??? What should I have done (aside from the fact that I’ve always supported my daughter) walked my new wonderful new wife and stepsons off of a cliff?

In closing, and to all of my readers, please know and understand the following. I am not a misogynist. I’m married to a beautiful and wonderful woman (whose two sons I’m very proud to call my stepsons)  and have an incredibly lovely and precious daughter.

I do recognize that there are also “child support dads” out there (although they are far fewer numbers since about 84% of moms nationwide have sole custody), and that some fathers also engage in the despicable actions as described herein. So what I’ve written here is directed at them as well.

I also believe that there are cases where child support is warranted. Although I italicize child support because studies have shown that in most cases, little to none of the “child support” dollars is actually spent on the children themselves, but rather it goes to support the custodial mom’s or dad’s lifestyle.

With that having been said, it’s important that you know that because of what I do as a father’s rights advocate (and I do help noncustodial moms too), and in about 99.9% of the cases I’ve been involved with, it involves those pathetic excuses for parents such as LeTisha, bri, and Kimberly.

I know their type, and I can spot them “hundreds of miles of comments away.” They are the type who use their children as pawns, interfere with the father’s “visitation” and all forms of his attempted contact with his child(ren). They bad  mouth the fathers of their children in front of the kids, spend all “child support” monies on themselves, use filthy language around their children, scream and yell at their children, engage in parental alienation and  gleefully and pervertedly employ many other forms of emotional and psychological abuse, use the children (and their physical and emotional well being)  to “get at” their fathers, and are all around horrible and destructive parents.

That does not mean that all custodial moms are as these three stooges are because they’re not. I believe that the majority of custodial moms are very good and loving moms, and that they do everything within their power to ensure that their children’s father play a meaningful role in his life. I also acknowledge that there are many moms who divorced for legitimate reasons.

However, that doesn’t mean that I condone the majority of cases where a mother kicked a father out of hers and her children’s lives in a unilateral decision (hers) and whereby she now collects excessive amounts of child support from him. In most cases, I believe that such is morally wrong and is no different than stealing. Especially those where the father didn’t ask to be (nor played a part in) being kicked out of his child’s life and then was forced to finance the fleecing of his own children through “child support. It’s theft, plain and simple, in most cases. Just because it’s legal doesn’t mean it’s morally right and just.

If you want to divorce, fine. But that doesn’t give you a moral nor an ethical right to take sole custody of the children involved and then steal (I honestly believe it’s the equivalent of theft in many cases) child support from him. Give dad sole custody then you don’t have to worry about “child support.” I’m sorry, but it is as simple as that.

Finally, I wrote this post well over a week ago, and considered whether or not I should post it as I worried about how unprofessional it might appear given that I did engage in a certain level of personal attacks, as that truly isn’t like me.

I have no qualms about attacking organizations and have always gone to great lengths to avoid direct and personal attacks on people themselves, as I believe that to be wrong and unprofessional. So much so, that with regard to this particular post and what I’ve said, I waited to post it because of my ambivalence.

However, and even after closer than two weeks of this being in draft, I’m still just as ambivalent about posting it as I was the day I began writing it. Despite seeking my wife’s guidance and opinion of which I value and cherish immensely as she’s a very wise woman, I’m still no less conflicted about posting this.

Reason being, and although I don’t intend to offend or in any way insult good and loving single moms by choice who were forced to be so after acting in the best interests of their children, my fear is that some may misconstrue what I’ve said as being directed at them, and it’s not.

Nonetheless, I’ve decided to post this because given how bad things are “in the trenches”, and considering that some fathers are driven to suicide in their efforts to maintain a relationship with their children.  Their decision to take their lives is often helped along by too many years of having to go through mothers like those I’ve addressed above in their attempts to be a good and loving father to their children. That having been said, there’s too much at stake for noncustodial mothers and fathers alike (and more importantly their children) for me to be mousey.

Sincerely,

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights
Email: tony.fantetti@ocffr.org

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The Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services (ODJFS) is Sued for ‘Stealing’ $84,506.14

As if the class action lawsuit filed by Matthew Dunlop against the Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services (ODJFS) didn’t already shed a very truthful and exceedingly ugly light on the Ohio Child Support Enforcement Agencies (CSEAs) nearly criminal child support collection practices, the most recent lawsuit exposes what I’d call a blatantly criminal albeit state-sanctioned enterprise.

James Cullinan an Ohio father has filed this case against the State of Ohio’s Department of Jobs and Family Services for wrongfully and what appears to be (to me at least)  illegally, taking more than $84,000 from Cullinan by double-collecting his child support payments over a period of about six years as alleged in his complaint.

Cullinan states in the complaint that he was ordered to pay $1,330.78 per month in child support in the summer 0f 1999. Additionally, he set up a separate bank account whereby through that account, the bank sent his child support payments directly to ODJFS.

Nonetheless, and despite there being no mention of Cullinan ever being behind in his obligation, and notwithstanding him already making the payments, ODJFS issued a wage withholding order to his employer in November 2004 whereby they began helping themselves to an additional $1,330.78 per month from Cullinan’s pay.

Before I continue, if you question my assertion (that reflects my opinion only)  that the State of Ohio through ODJFS stole that money, please stop and consider the following.

First, if any bank, or fitness club, or auto dealer, etc, that for years collected a double monthly payment on a loan or contract etc whereby they took from someone $84,000 that they weren’t entitled to, their CEO (and perhaps others) would be immediately arrested and criminally charged with ether fraud, or theft by deception, fraudulent conversion or something of the sort.

Secondly, despite the State of Ohio knowing they were double-collecting child support from Cullinan, they continued to do so, then refused to refund his money. How do I know they refused you wonder? It’s simple, had the State complied, Cullinan’s civil complaint wouldn’t have been filed and therefore pending in the Ohio Court of Claims as it is now.

Think about this; Matthew Dunlop filed his recent class action lawsuit, now Cullinan steps forward and demonstrates with his case that Ohio may have stolen more than $84,000 from him, so what else is out there that we don’t know about? Are we to believe that this is just another isolated case where mistakes were “unintentionally” made? I think not.

With the way Ohio has very aggressively and very hatefully collected missed child support payments over the past decade, rest assured that the State combs the accounts regulary for “deadbeats.” There’s no not noticing regular overpayments and excessive credit balances that ODJFS at this point to me at least appears to be willingly building up for the sole purpose of increasing their child support profits.

I have maintained for years that the State of Ohio through its live televised  “deadbeat dad” roundups, wanted billboards, wanted pizza boxes, wanted posters, wanted web sites etc, engaged in those practices not out of the “best interest of the children” as they always falsely proclaimed; but rather, they did so only to hide their very corrupt profiteering from their “child support” collections efforts.

Over the last decade, the State of Ohio has profited from child support collections in excess of $500,000,000. Or stated otherwise, a half billion dollars in profits at the emotional and physical expense of Ohio’s precious and innocent children. In reality, their profits are probably closer to one billion, but who’s counting?

How is over-collecting child support at the expense of the children you ask? It’s emotionally and physically so due to the horrendous conditions that many noncustodial parents (NCPs) are forced to live in after being bankrupted (or in the very least financially decimated) by their unbearable child support orders. And if they’re living that way, then so are their children when they visit with them.

There were many parents like myself who after meeting their child support obligtion (and due to incredibly high child support orders) had  very little money left over with which they could actually support themselves and their wonderful children. “Existing” without heat, utilities, or adequate food supplies, shelter, clothing or other basic necessities is not to be equated nor confused with sufficiently supporting oneself.

Many like me lost their homes, some were forced into homelessness (and therefore could no longer have their children “visit” them), many had no heat in their “homes” during Ohio’s brutally cold Midwest winters. So is that really in a child’s “best interest” when they have to sleep in a house with no heat (and in some cases no utilities whatsoever) because the NCP has little to no money left to support themselves after they’ve had their child support deducted from their net pay? Or, if they can’t afford to buy food when they’re left with $10 per week to “support” themselves after child support is deducted from their check?

Others like me had to “garbage pick” multiple nights per week in order to have items to sell at “yard sales” so as to put food on the table. Children like my daughter had to pick bugs out of the food they were eating because the NCP couldn’t afford to throw away food that was found to have bugs in it. Is eating bugs really in a child’s best interest as the State would have us believe?

Make no mistake, Ohio’s child support collections efforts have never been about “the best interests of the children.” In fact it’s quite to the contrary, as their collection efforts have always been in Ohio’s best financial interest at the emotional and physical expense (as I’ve described herein) of Ohio’s precious children.

I’ve argued for years (and truthfully so) that Ohio has demonized all NCPs (especially fathers, aka those villainous “deadbeat ‘”dads’”) in newspapers, on TV, billboards etc,  in order to demonize them and thereby hide their Machiavellian child support collection tactics from a very naive populace.

By using their disingenuous mantra “the best interest of the children” as their
cause celebre to very hatefully, haughtily and shamelessly make synonymous  “deadbeat dad” with all single fathers, Ohio could (and did) both brazenly and arrogantly, bash those loving  fathers in nearly all public forums and with absolute impunity.

It’s exceedingly important that you understand that Ohio had to create a straw man (the very elusive and equally mythological “deadbeat dad”) so as to hide their “illegal” (as demonstrated by the recent lawsuits) seizing of monies that were not child support, but stolen nonetheless and labeled as such in order to effect said theft under a very dark color of law.

And that, while on one hand Ohio in a very perverted manner pretended to commiserate with the millions of Ohio children who were from broken homes and in many cases, were reeling emotionally and in utter turmoil from having experienced the horrific effects of having their worlds turned upside-down through no fault of their own. But with the other hand, the State of Ohio was shamelessly and crookedly shaking down their dads in thousands of cases (114,000 is the estimate) by mining his pockets for dollars that were far in excess of his and her (for noncustodial (NC) moms) child support obligation.

The State’s vile, despicable and perverted actions were waylaid against hundreds of thousands of Ohio’s very loving and innocent NC mothers and fathers in a very fallacious manner. And one that was undertaken with the sole intent of wrongfully and inaccurately publicly demonizing them in order to imbue the public with an insatiable and seething hatred of all fathers (who were labeled  “deadbeat dads”) that fell behind unwilling or otherwise, in their child support obligations.

To this very day, there’s absolutely no tolerance by the public for any father who has unwillingly fallen behind in his child support obligation, and despite us presently living in the worst economy and the highest extended unemployment in roughly 80 years.

So what’s a child support paying father to do after he’s laid off through no fault of his own, his company has closed, moved its operations overseas, and he has zero chance of finding a like job in for instance a highly specialized field? Why he’s to go to jail of course. Shame on him! Don’t believe me? Well, it’s not my opinion, but start polling others and you’ll likely find it’s that of most of the populace’s.

In the court of public opinion, it’s okay if a mother spends child support monies on herself, or she refuses to purchase for a child involved with those child support dollars, braces because she “can’t afford it”, or because her car broke down, or some other unexpected bill or a calamity has befallen her. That’s so because the public tends to be very propitious towards “single moms” while being incredibly hateful towards single dads, many of whom didn’t ask (nor choose) to be single in the first place. It was unwillingly forced upon them (and their children) by single moms in many cases.

And that, despite the fact that in the majority of cases, the mom chose to be a “single mom” by divorcing the father of ‘her’ children or by otherwise kicking him out of their child’s life. Fathers on the other hand are regularly pilloried by the public, media etc. Don’t believe me? Then start paying attention to commercials, TV shows, and ads and you’ll see for yourself how dads and men in general are treated as wooden and perfunctory dolts who’re incapable of accomplishing anything notable or worthwhile.

In fact, in more cases than not, the child support paying father would be demonized and blamed for “not paying enough child support” if a single-mom-by-choice claimed she couldn’t afford braces for her child despite her monthly child support award being enough to do just that. And that would be so notwithstanding the fact that the father is (and has) paid everything as ordered by the court since the inception of the court’s support order.

So why is that so? I’ll tell you why. For over ten years, the State of Ohio has done nothing but publicly impinge Ohio’s single fathers by very publicly (and wrongfully) maligning, castigating and denigrating Ohio’s single dads to create what I said; a straw man whereby Ohio could quietly and elusively rip off and steal from fathers such and Dunlop and Cullinan so as to financially profit (through Ohio’s two percent processing fee and the “Federal Incentive Match” search the blog for those words for an explanation of it) to form a very negative image of single dads in the minds of the public.

That was necessary in order to get the public on board and comfortable with today’s
de facto standard of not just bashing and denigrating single dads, but doing so while gleefully jubilating in the ideology that single dads are essentially the incarnate of evil. By imbuing the public with that perception (just look around you, it’s everywhere) they are in their ignorance convinced that single dads are disinterested in child rearing, don’t love their children, are incapable of being an effective parent and are therefore to be relegated to the status of trash in the court of public opinion.

By doing that, any single father who was to come forward publicly or otherwise to to complain of abuse by the courts, by the Child Support Enforcement Agencies (CSEAs),  or of financial hardships and bankruptcy as a result of a crushing and exceedingly high “child support” obligation was said to be a “deadbeat” who just wanted to “get out of supporting his children.” And when in fact it’s very much to the contrary.

Think about that for a moment; as parents, there are thousands if not tens or hundreds of thousands of things we do for our children over the course of their lives. Child support for the noncustodial parent(NCP) is only one of  those thousands of things, so why don’t we hear about the other thousands of loving deeds an NCP does for their children? 

I’ll tell you why, it’s only because the State of Ohio doesn’t earn a financial profit (to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars)  off of the other thousands of loving deeds an NCP happily performs while supporting their child(ren). However, child support profits pay Ohio and it pays dearly as explained, and to the tune of $223,000,000 in 2004 which I believe was Ohio’s “most profitable” year ever.

That having been said, a very naive populace has been conditioned by Ohio (through various campaigns over the years) to hate single fathers, denigrate them, and look upon them as nothing more than an ATM machine. That’s so because it’s implied that there’s nothing else they can (or want to)  offer their children. 

That’s a wholesale lie, and it  couldn’t be further from the truth. But that thinking has been sold to (and bought by) the public by various Ohio pitchmen (IE Kim Newsom Bridge’s Ohio CSEA Director’s Association (OCDA) and ODJFS) for more than a decade now.

To put it in perspective, consider how politicians manipulate the media to malign and falsely portray their opponents. Well, the State of Ohio has done the same for more than ten years, only their opponent, the very target of Ohio’s exceedingly abusive and hateful propoganda, has been the hundreds of thousands of very good and equally loving single fathers who want nothing more than to love and support their children in all regards. Not just through child support payments.

However, with the filing of Dunlop’s and Cullinan’s lawsuits against ODJFS, Ohio’s very deceptive, draconian, highly abusive and seemingly illegal and possibly criminal “child support” collections practices are going to be brought to light in a court of law.

With those two cases having been filed, it causes one to wonder just how many more “aberrations” are out there in Ohio. If the allegations against ODJFS, were made against you, I, or some private entity, it  would surely land one or more persons behind bars.

And that, under some felony indictment that contained the words “criminal”, fraud”, “inducement”, or “theft” among others. Mak eno mistake, the State is going to have a very difficult time keeping hidden (as they’ve done so well thus far) their highly questionable and quite possibly criminal and illegal “child support” collection tactics. Tactics whereby it appears they’ve thus far they’ve stolen from loving Ohio fathers hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of dollars that the State was never legally authorized to take.

So tell me,  who are “the bad guys” now? Is it Ohio’s many good and loving single fathers, or is it the State’s numerous actors in the child support theatre, who out of Ohio’s best financial interests only, and interests that can only be achieved at the emotional and physical expense of Ohio’s precious and innocent children, are literally ripping off and stealing from the paycheck of Ohio’s struggling single fathers?

And thereby, through those same father’s bank accounts and paychecks the State is stealing directly from the very children that Ohio purports to be acting, “only in the best interests of.” That’s so,  because now those fathers don’t have those monies (that the State ‘stole’) to spend on their children as they see fit so as to act in their best interests. And why don’t they? Only because the State pilfered them to earn a profit off of the backs of Ohio’s precious children.

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights
Email: tony.fantetti@ocffr.org

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Did Kim Newsom Bridges Admit that Ohio Sabotages the Employment Efforts of Noncustodial Parent’s?

This article ran in the Columbus Dispatch on September 25, 2011.

First, I’d like to point out that although Ohio’s new child support statutes are a step in the right direction,  they do have a very long way to go before they can be said to be in the best interests of the children. Additionally, the State has an equally long way to go with regard to how terribly they treat good and loving noncustodial parents (NCPs) who want to pay their child support but simply can’t.

Any reasonable and caring person can deduce through simple logic that with Ohio having one of the worst economies in the nation, coupled with the worst national unemployment rates and the highest foreclosure rates since the Great Depression, there are lots of NCPs who are struggling just to put food on the table and maintain a roof over their heads.

Let’s not forget that the very same children for whom a child support order was issued, are those who also visit their loving noncustodial parent (NCP) in those same homes where that parent is simply trying to exist.

And what a sad environment for a child to be introduced to; one where those good and loving NCPs struggle immensely to present some sense of normalcy for their precious children while struggling terribly to put food on the table and a roof over theirs and their child’s head.

So what’s Ohio’s answer to that NCP who lost their job through no fault of their own and thereby fell behind in their financially unbearable child support obligation. And that, along with falling behind on the rent, mortgage, utilities, insurance, credit cards, phone, auto payment, medical bills, tuition, health insurance, taxes and everything else they’re obligated to pay? Ohio, and by their own admission, sabotages that NCP’s employment efforts.

But hey, look on the bright side right? And that “bright side” is that Ohio only sabotages an NCP’s employment as a “last resort.” What’s that last resort? Well usually where it hits the NCP the hardest, and when it hurts the most; after they’ve probably lost about everything, have absolutely no income, and need a job more then ever.

Does it ever occur to Ms. Brown or Ms. Newsom Bridges that those NCPs who don’t pay half of their monthly support obligation have absolutely no income, are probably sleeping on a friends or family member’s couch (if they’re “lucky”) or are homeless and can’t pay for anything? Of course it doesn’t. Read on, and you’ll see how Newsom Bridges can’t resist speaking ill of all of Ohio’s NCPs.

When NCPs are driven into joblessness and thereby sometimes homelessness through no fault of their own, does it really make sense for Ohio to punish them for their inability to pay financially crippling amounts of child support? More importantly, how is their homelessness, or incarceration (for failure to pay child support), or Ohio intentionally sabotaging their employment efforts in any way in “the best interests of their children?”

It’s not, plain and simple. But Ohio doesn’t care, as they only care about a profit as I explain in the forthcoming.

The fact is, and what most of the public is unaware of is this; Ohio, as do the other 49 states,  all profit immensely off of their annual state wide child support collections. Said profit is paid to them by your Social Security payroll taxes that you pay for your retirement. In 2004 alone, Ohio profited to the the tune of $223,000,000 dollars.

That profit is paid to the states by the Federal Government through what’s known as the “Federal Incentive Match” and is undoubtedly the strongest motivating factor behind Ohio’s highly punitive and very hateful child support collection efforts.

From the link above, it shows in Part (4) INCENTIVE BASE AMOUNT that three of the five (B,C,D) performance measures (these determine Ohio’s annual profit amount) are based on Ohio’s annual collection amounts. Another (A) is based on paternity establishment performance level. And it’s for that reason (paternity establishment) that Ohio knows and doesn’t care that many fathers who are proven (through DNA) not to be a child’s father must pay tens of thousands of dollars in “child support” for children who are known not to be theirs.

That’s not true, you say? Ohio’s CSEAs don’t force a man to pay child support for a child whereby it’s proven through DNA (and known to the CSEAs and courts) that he couldn’t possibly have fathered? Think again! Watch the video in this link, and you’ll see a CSEA attorney arguing just that at between the seven and eight minute mark.

And if that doesn’t prove incontrovertibly that Ohio’s incredibly abusive and life destroying child support collection practices are all about Ohio’s best financial interests at the emotional and physical expense of the children involved with a support order, then I don’t know what does.

Reading the article in the link I provided in the first paragraph, either (it’s not clear which one) Kim Newsom Bridges or Susan Brown , Director of the Franklin County Child Support Enforcement Agency says this:

“If an obligor has paid half of their support, we aren’t likely to suspend their license,” she said. “It’s better for us to get some money in the household than none, and to sabotage someone’s effort to do that is a measure of last resort.

Did you catch that? She (either Brown or Newsom again, it’s not clear who’s saying it) admits in a back-handed manner that Ohio actually sabotages an NCP’s effort to obtain employment! That’s vile, it’s wanton, and and it’s utterly despicable! But of course Ohio would have you believe that it’s in the child’s best interest. Huh???

Now, you may be thinking, “why would Ohio sabotage an NCP’s employment efforts when you claimed in the preceding that three of the five (B,C,D) Federal Incentive Match performance metrics are based on child support collection?”

My answer to that? “D.” Performance metric D is: The arrearage payment performance level. When an NCP is forced into an arrearage situation, especially in this current economic environment, it’s very difficult, especially for a low-income wage earner to ever overcome that arrears. Why? Because of the interest and penalties that the CSEA tacks on.

Additionally, low income parents are without the necessary financial resources to retain counsel and thereby stop Ohio’s CSEAs from withholding incorrect child support amounts from paychecks, over-collecting on existing orders, and collecting from those where no order exist. And hence some of the very foundations of this lawsuit filed against the Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services (ODJFS).

It’s a known fact that the majority of unpaid child support is owed by those who can’t pay, and what happens when you don’t pay? Subjective interest compounds over and over. I use the word subjective, because you will owe what Ohio says you owe, period.

Think about it, how in the world does a life-long minimum wage earner end up owing $125,000 or $150,000 in back child support? Interest and penalties that the CSEA adds to their original balance and then compounds regularly.

The result? Those low income wage earners will owe and will be paying on child support for the rest of their lives. In reality, their true arrears was probably $25,000 or possibly less.

Are you starting to see how this all works? Rest assured that if those same low income wage earners ever win the lottery or are left an inheritance or file for tax returns, the State of Ohio will seize all of it and in turn profit off of each and every one of those child support dollars that indigent NCP will most likely be paying for the rest of their lives.

In the mean time, Ohio suspends their licenses (so much for truck drivers, taxi drivers, pizza delivery drivers, school bus drivers, etc working and earning a wage  huh?), incarcerates them, forces them into an underground economy, forces them into bankruptcy and homelessness and forces them to live life on the run because they’re tired of being jailed.

So who wins, the children whose NCP (that Ohio has caused to be a “deadbeat”) and who has dropped out of their lives because they’re on the run, or the State of Ohio through their “profits” that they’ll collect on every dollar they manage to seize from that parent for the rest of his or her life?

Ohio of course. And because their best financial interests are, and can only be served, at the emotional (and sometimes physical) expense of some innocent Ohio child who never asked (nor did they have any say) about being thrust into Ohio’s financial wonderland.

So here we have it, a representative of the State of Ohio (either Newsom or Brown) openly admits to the Columbus Dispatch that Ohio in fact sabotages a noncustodial parents employment efforts. Even worse, that’s done at the emotional expense of the children involved.

And if that weren’t perverse enough the article quotes Kim Newsom Bridges as saying,

“But she’s not convinced the changes will help increase child-support collections, which have dropped in recent years.

For instance, if parents know they have to pay only half of their court-ordered support to avoid sanctions, that may be all they pay.”

Instead of taking the high road, Newsom doesn’t seem capable of passing on the opportunity to once again demonize all noncustodial parents with her filthy, wholly unprofessional, and snarky remark,

“…if parents know they have to pay only half of their court-ordered support to avoid sanctions, that may be all they pay.”

Is that so Ms. Bridges? How dare you insult Ohio’s more than 900,000 noncustodial parents! Most of whom like myself are very loving parents, and never asked to be kicked out of our children’s lives. Additionally, we are then forced under constant threats of arrest and incarceration to finance the fleecing of our children so that you, in your position at the Ohio CSEA Director’s Association (OCDA) can in turn maximize the State of Ohio’s financial “profit” at the emotional and physical expense of our innocent children.

Your behavior and highly unprofessional words are completely unwarranted, yet wholly expected and par for the course Ms. Newsom Bridges. For years, agencies under your direction have repeatedly publicly insulted good and loving noncustodial parents. They’ve  called us “deadbeats”, referred to us as “turnips” in your “getting blood from a turnip” campaign run at the Ohio CSEA Director’s Association (OCDA). An agency, where under your direction, Ohio’s very hateful and highly abusive child support collection practices are honed and refined at the expense of our children. Is that not so?

Additionally, there are many NCPs like myself who are overpaid thousands of dollars in child support. Where’s our money, and why do those like me have to keep paying child support each and every month, and despite the nearly $8,000 I was overpaid at one point?

I’ll tell you why Ms. Bridges, so your agency can maximize Ohio’s annual Federal Incentive Match at my daughter’s expense right? Those child support debits just keep coming and coming, each and every month, and despite my approximate $6,000 current over-payment Why? Only so that those monies can be used enhance Ohio’s profit from B and C found here right?

And as if that weren’t immoral enough, I must pay the State of Ohio a 2% “processing fee” ($160) to get my own money back due to what was once a nearly $8,000 overpayment. And will I be paid interest on those monies that I’ll have been without for nearly eight years? Of course not. At 4% interest, I should have at least been paid
$1,500 for the use of my money?

Why must I pay a processing fee to get my own money back? So that my monies can further enhance B and C as explained, but additionally, so I’ll have to pay Ohio’s 2% poundage fee twice to the CSEA, once when I made the overpayment, and a second time when my overpayment is returned to me. And that is a fact isn’t it Ms. Bridges? Whose “best interest” is that in again Ms. Bridges?

Finally, lets not forget how the State of Ohio collects its Federal Incentive Match twice on my over-payment; The first time by collecting the overpaid monies, and the second time my forcing myself (and thousands of others I suspect) to keep paying “child support.” And that, even with a current over-payment on the books (in which case Ohio goes to great lengths to hide from the Obligor, hence another reason the recent class action suit was filed) so that the CSEA can collect our “child support” payments a second time, and then pay those very same monies back to us.

That way, the money passes through the CSEA’s  filthy hands twice, (so they can in turn boost their B,C and D performance metrics as explained) and collect a 2% “poundage fee” so that those with over-payments can have their own money back.

I have only one more question for you in closing Ms. Newsom Bridges. How is what I just described, those very actions by Ohio’s 88 Child Support Enforcement (or should that be Extortion?) Agency, (CSEA) not considered criminal fraud and racketeering, is it not so because it’s done under a very dark color of law?

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights
Email: tony.fantetti@ocffr.org

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Why Didn’t My Comment Post to the Blog?

Please note that due to the incredible amount of SPAM that “bots” and humans attempt to post to the OCFFR Blog, many legitimate comments by readers are inadvertently trapped by the Blog’s SPAM filters after being improperly flagged as SPAM.

Unfortunately, this is the main downside to deploying SPAM filters in order to minimize SPAM. That said, it’s always best to register and thereby create a User ID to post comments under. By doing that, the SPAM filter will eventually “recognize” you and your comments will always post immediately.

Please note that we do not gather personal information about you. Also, we neither sell your information nor disclose your identity when you register for an account to post comments here.

Moreover, there are times when I wish to speak to and or correspond with people about their cases, or about what they’ve posted here, so it’s helpful if you use a valid email address when you register. Absent that, I have no way to contact you.

Finally, if you are someone who vehemently disagrees with what I write, please know that your comments are more than welcome too, as I love nothing more than to “debate” those see things differently than do I.

It is said that, “in the end times, what is right will seem wrong, and what is wrong will seem right.” That having been said, I firmly believe that in many situations, “child support” is morally wrong (unless it’s agreed to by both parties) as it’s nothing more than the immoral theft of another’s money. Just because it’s legal, doesn’t make it right.

No noncustodial parent (NCP) be they a noncustodial mom or dad, should ever be forced to finance the fleecing of their own child(ren) if they haven’t willingly, by words or by actions, walked away from their children. And that’s all child support is in many cases; the financial fleecing of another, as those monies are usually used as “ex” (ex-spouse, ex-girlfriend, ex-boyfriend) support and that’s wrong.

Again, I reiterate; unless the noncustodial parent is a willing deadbeat (dead broke doesn’t equate to deadbeat), then stealing “child support” from them via the strong-arm of the court is immoral and wrong in my humble opinion.

Sincerely,

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights
Email: tony.fantetti@ocffr.org

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Ohio Answers Child Support Class Action Complaint

After reading through Ohio’s response (filed as a Motion to Dismiss requesting Summary Judgment) to Matt Dunlop’s Class Action Lawsuit, it’s my humble opinion that MPP Law has Ohio dead to rights with regard to the allegations in Mr. Dunlop’s Complaint.

Michael Dewine, Ohio Attorney General, postures (very weakly I might add) in his argument that the Ohio Court of Claims (where the suit was filed) does not have jurisdiction over child support matters. Dewine’s argument in my humble opinion is utterly baseless and is an absolute red herring that I suspect he prays (and not in a legal sense) the Court will take; hook, line and sinker.

Reason being, the lawsuit isn’t about Ohio collecting “child support” monies, it’s about Ohio seizing monies to which it had no legal authority to take. Monies that are in fact far in excess of those entangled in child support obligations that many noncustodial parents (aka obligors) have been court-ordered to pay.

Speaking bluntly, the State of Ohio is clearly stealing money from about 114,000 people. If you or I did that, we’d immediately be arrested and subsequently indicted, convicted and incarcerated for felony theft.

Also found in the State’s preposterous Motion to Dismiss, is the State arguing (in 12 very long, boring, and repetitive pages) that the Ohio Court of Claims lacks the necessary jurisdiction to make determination and orders concerning child support matters, and that’s a completely moot point. Moreover, anything to the contrary is not a foundation for any of the allegations made by Dunlop in his Complaint. So again, the State argues with nothing more than a straw man.

Dunlop’s lawsuit isn’t about child support or “child support matters,” it’s about Ohio stealing monies that you and I would assuredly go to jail for taking, if it were us who were in fact doing the stealing.

As if the aforementioned weren’t ridiculous enough, Ohio Attorney General Michael Dewine argues that perhaps such “overpayments” should be “held for future expenses”. Really? Mr. Dewine, please direct me to where in Ohio statutes, any judge is granted statutory authority to retain illegally seized monies should a currently unknown but possible future expense be incurred?

In Dewine’s Memorandum in Support of his Motion to Dismiss, he once again argues, “…this Court does not have jurisdiction over child support.” Again, I must point out that Dunlop’s case is not about the Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services (ODJFS) collecting child support, but rather it’s only about ODJFS taking money that has nothing to do with child support and it’s therefore “stealing” under threats of arrest and incarceration against those being stolen from.

In the last paragraph on page five, Dewine argues that Dunlop’s assertion that ODJFS intentionally misrepresented the true status of his account (by reporting his balance as “$0″ online) is undercut. That, because Dunlop admits that after he requested a written summary of his account, it was provided to him and it “clearly showed” an overpayment. So for those who don’t know they’re overpaid? Well too bad I guess that some will forever be out that money, but no harm done because they never knew right? Is that not how it works Mr. Dewine?

Do you see how that despicable thievery by the State of Ohio appears to be justified in Mr. Dewine’s eyes? His argument is that because Dunlop was provided an accurate written summary of his account only after he requested it, the State is not intentionally misrepresenting the status of his and another 114,000 or so other obligor accounts.

Dewine completely ignores the fact that 1. Online, Dunlop’s balance says “$0.”
2. When Dunlop would inquire about his balance over the phone, he was told his balance was “$0.” 3. Had Dunlop not asked for a written summary of his account, would he have ever known he was overpaid by more than $1,000 as he is? Do truth, honesty and integrity matter to Dewine or the State of Ohio? Need I really answer that?

I find Mr. Dewine’s defense of ODJFS’ practice of intentionally hiding overpayments from obigors to be utterly vile, immoral, despicable and completely void of character and integrity. As if the State stealing non-child support related money from obligors wasn’t immoral enough, Dewine then defends the State’s practice of hiding the money from those they stole it from.

Has society degenerated and thereby descended into such an immoral abyss that such a practice is carried out not only without even a hint of shame, but it’s also actually defended by a State’s Attorney General who by definition is a state’s chief law enforcement officer?

After reading through Dewine’s entire motion, one can easily see that the basis of Ohio’s request for Summary Judgment is such that the Ohio Court of Claims lacks jurisdiction over “child support matters,” but such an argument is completely irrelevant as I explained.

Worse yet, is that Dewine defends Ohio’s practice of deceiving obligors about being overpaid thousands of dollars in child support and falsely claims that such people can “find relief” in a Court of Domestic Relations. That at it’s core is a bald face lie that’s shown to be so whereby Dewine is convicted by his own words as explained in the forthcoming.

In the second to last paragraph on page two he says in reference to the Court, “…exercise its discretion in determining whether or not the overpayment should be retained for future potential expenses.”

Do you understand what he’s alluding to? The fact that a Domestic Relations Court will decide if an overpayment will be returned to an obligor, or simply kept because some unknown (at that time) and possible (but not identified) expense may arise in the future. In such cases,the obligor won’t get their money back that was wrongfully taken from them to begin with.

I personally was nearly $8,000 overpaid in my child support obligation at one time. That’s close to $8,000 of which I need now to buy a reliable car that we’re in desperate need of. However, that “remedy” that Dewine alludes to has been explored by me, and it cost me nearly $5,000 in legal fees to ask the Court for permission to get my own money back. How many of you can just do without $8,000 of your own money, and especially in these terrible economic times?

The Court’s response? I may pay $100 per month less in my monthly “child support” payment until that $8,000 is down to $0. As if doing without that money and having it returned to me gradually (which wasn’t how it was taken) over the course of the nearly seven years it’ll take for me to get those funds back isn’t bad enough, I must also pay the State of Ohio a 2% processing fee ($160) to get my own money back. Moreover, if the obligee under my order were to suddenly vacate the earth prior to me getting my $8,000 back or if there were a change of custody before that overpayment was $0, my wife, my daughter and myself would forever be out that money.

Is that fair, equitable and just? I think not and truly hope that you feel the same way. Is that in my daughter’s “best interest?” Of course it’s not. There are many things I’d love to do with her as well as buy her with that money (which is mine of course), but I can’t, because I can’t get it back.

It’s not in mine, nor is it in my family’s best interest that I don’t get my money back. But what it is in, is Ohio’s best financial interest (and that at the expense of my daughter’s best interest) to wrongfully seize that money to begin with, then to charge me a 2% processing fee (that Ohio collects) so that I can have my own money back.

Am I such a prude that only I define Ohio’s and Mike Dewine’s behavior as lawlessness given that it’s in my humble opinion no less than state sanctioned theft?

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights
Email: tony.fantetti@ocffr.org

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Despite Being Sued Ohio Still Won’t Return “Child Support” Overpayments

The following is an email (and my reply) that I just received from an Ohio father who’s nearly $1,000 overpaid on his child support.

Think about that for a moment; a class action lawsuit (referenced below) was filed against the State of Ohio’s Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services (ODJFS) on May 7, 2011, and what does ODJFS do? It keeps collecting child support from fathers who in some cases don’t owe any, and in others are overpaid like the one below is.

This is precisely why the child support lawsuit must prevail, to stop Ohio’s outright thievery of funds from noncustodial parents that it’s not entitled to.

In a case such as this one and many others, if the noncustodial mother were to pass, or if there were a change of custody, that father would never be refunded his overpayment.

Is that right, fair, equitable, or just? More importantly, how is that in the “best interest” of his daughter? It’s not, it’s in Ohio’s best financial interest at the expense of his daughter as that’s money (his) that he could be spending on her as he chooses.

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights
Email: tony.fantetti@ocffr.org

Quoting xxxx xxxxxxxxx :
Hello.
My name is xxxx xxxxxxxxx. I live in xxxxxxxxx Ohio. On Friday i found out that xxxxxx County has been taking out too much money from my pay. The overpayment is almost $1000.00 They told me i cant have it back till my daughter turns 18 in two yrs just in case i wouldnt be able to make my monthly payment. 4 yrs a go i was unemployed. so when i got a job they issued a 2nd pay order to the place i work for to make the back support up. My new case worker on Friday said the 2nd order was never canciled when i caught up so now i have the 1000 over payment. Any ideas on what to do about this? Im going Monday morning to have a face to face and ask for a admin hearing. Thanks
xxxx xxxxxxxxx

_______________________________________
xxxxx,

Absent a court order, it’s highly unlikely that the CSEA will refund your overpayment. I know that, as I have a nearly $7,000 overpayment they wouldn’t return to me, and they just kept collecting despite that.

Given that a class action lawsuit has been filed against Ohio for over collecting “child support,” I’d follow the case in the forthcoming link to see what becomes of it. I’ll be posting updates to the blog as it progresses.

http://www.ocffr.org/blog/2011/07/09/ohio-child-support-lawsuit-odjfs-accused-of-knowingly-over-collecting-in-class-action-complaint-3/

Sincerely,

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights

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Only One Person Can Help Everyone Overcome “The System”

The exchange posted below is one between myself and a father who recently commented here on the Blog.

I feel it’s imperative to repost it here because until noncustodial parents (NCPs) begin to very carefully intellectualize, comprehend, and finally, act upon what’s discussed in that exchange; NCPs en masse will continue their very frustrating and equally vain search for that imaginary “magic bullet” that never has and never will exist.

That magical and mythological bullet is the one that addresses each and every hardship, roadblock, and injustice that many NCPs endure at the hands of their exes, the courts, the CSEAs, and all others who are the embodiment of Ohio’s Family Court System.

Moreover, what must also be intellectualized and understood to the same degree by every NCP, is that when it comes to “child support”, many of those who are the incarnate of the system couldn’t care less about them, their children, their hardships, nor the hardships that their children face because of their financially unbearable child support order.

Even worse, is that they care just as little about the fact that some fathers will eventually kill themselves after having been driving to the edge of sanity by the very same; those who also very piously and falsely claim to be acting only, “in the best interests of the children.”

So another child will grow up fatherless because he committed suicide after being driven to it by Ohio’s Family Courts and the Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services (ODJFS) CSEAs, and they care not. That’s inhumane, despicable, and utterly disgusting.

They care nothing for him nor his children, as they care only about maximizing the Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services (ODJFS) Federal Incentive Match (paid though a worker’s Social Security payroll tax) that’s strong-armed from NCPs through ODJFS’ collection agent; Ohio’s”Child Support Enforcement Agency (CSEA).

Ohio’s CSEA in my humble opinion is better known as Ohio’s Child Support Extortion Agency. I make that claim because they’ll shakedown innocents who don’t even owe child support or have a child support order in place. This recently filed lawsuit exposes Ohio’s illegal tactical shakedown methods in great detail. Personally, and by my moral standards, Ohio’s CSEA is operating an illegal and government sanctioned extortion ring.

People truly need to understand in depth just how corrupt, morally bankrupt, debased and contemptuously hateful towards NCPs (and their children) that Ohio’s CSEA is. An understanding of that is required before they can truly comprehend and thereby accept why most of the ODJFS and the CSEA incarnates couldn’t care less about them being homeless, without heat during Ohio’s brutally cold winters, and unable to feed themselves or their children that “visit” them.

The forthcoming is the exchange between Carl T. W. and myself. Please know that I find what he describes to be very sad. I do not say what I do because I’m calloused, cold-hearted, or indifferent towards him or his situation as that couldn’t be further from the truth. I Feel badly for him and his innocent and precious daughter, and truly empathize with him.

POSTED BY CARL T. W. :

I’m in a different situation yet similar in the way that the Ohio “Child Support” System is screwing me over thick and thin. It may be a different story then some of the people posting here but I’m not sure how long before I’m in their position as well. To the story, I’ve been paying child support since last year and have never missed a payment. The only reason I had arreages is because the judge back dated the C.S. amount and calculated it to over $1000. I live in Ohio now back with family and my ex wife lives in Florida. I PAY for plane tickets to see my daughter every summer…and try to for christmas (although with the way C.S. is screwing me as of late I don’t know if that’ll happen this year and the judge nor C.S. seems to care). Recently they’ve been taking over $100 more than they are supposed too out of the checks I get from work (Where I work is as a longshoremen and I don’t get that much work at all and since the original court order for support my Unemployment benefits have gone down $100.) I actually have a lawyer who is trying to get us into a hearing asap, in which case I’m sure the courts delay these hearings as much as they can. Today I just read that they have a $65.00 amount ordered every week to take from my unemployment which is only $183.00. The original child support amount is $290.27 and they have already taken my income tax check this year and over paid themselves for my arreages. They took $390 from my work checks for the month of June and I wasn’t receiving unemployments for 2 1/2 weeks of it so i think the most I got for the month of June was $200 if I was lucky. My 190$ gross checks get knocked down to 150 without C.S. …with C.S. I’m left with a measely 50$. Now if I go back to work and they take from my work checks….AND unemployment I don’t even know how I’m going to afford to eat for the week and MY DAUGHTER IS WITH ME FOR THE SUMMER! What is the justice in this? I have bills like everyone else and have never missed a payment when it comes to the “regular time” I’ve had to pay and not the backdated amount the judge chose out of thin air. Now I’m running on fumes….I’m scrambling to find a job…I have a seek work order to find a consistent full time job and I do what I’m supposed to do. I apply to more than 20 jobs a month and why? So they can raise my support order when I do finally get an interview and get a full time job. I just don’t get where the logical thinking is in this system and if anyone knows of ANY HELP someone in my position can receive please let me know. I’m desperate at this point.

MY RESPONSE:

Carl,

Contrary to your claim of “there’s no logic in this”, there in fact is; It’s called a “profit,” and the more “child support” the State of Ohio wrongfully seizes from you, the more profit they earn.

You also asked, “Now if I go back to work and they take from my work checks….AND unemployment I don’t even know how I’m going to afford to eat for the week and MY DAUGHTER IS WITH ME FOR THE SUMMER! What is the justice in this?”

You already know the answer to that, so I suspect you’re asking it out of utter frustration. There’s none, and the State of Ohio doesn’t care, nor do they care in the least about your daughter or you seeing your daughter. They care about one thing and one alone; ‘profit.’

The only way they can earn said profit is to collect ‘child support’, and that, lawfully or not. It doesn’t matter to Ohio as they will and do unlawfully collect what they’re not entitled too as alleged in this recently filed class action lawsuit whereby ODJFS among others is listed as a Defendant.

Please know that I mean no disrespect in saying what I’m about to, nor is it my intent to marginalize your situation as I’ve been where you are and can therefore truly empathize. However, until more people “get it” and truly believe the following and then get involved as a result, things won’t change.

Your situation is no different than countless others Carl. Most believe that their own situation is unique and that it’s only they who are “getting taken” by the system and that couldn’t be further from the truth. Additionally, and most importantly, you need to get involved. I’ve told the same to countless people over the years and only a small percentage actually do engage themselves.

That must change for the system to change. If you want help, you have to help yourself by getting actively involved in changing the system. The emails (and blog posts) I get from others asking for help are as endless as they are countless. If those same number of people had gotten involved since I started the organization in 2007, I believe that things would be different today.

That said, if you want help, help yourself; and you help yourself by getting involved. Again, I mean no disrespect towards you in stating that. It’s simply the truth and the only way to change “the system.”

If you don’t believe me, then consider this; there are hundreds of thousands (and probably) millions of “child support” paying noncustodial parents such as you who truly need help. To help them, either someone must provide free legal counsel, free housing, free money etc, or someone (the same people perhaps?) need to change the system.

What few consider when asking for free legal counsel for example is that attorneys, just like you and the rest of us, have bills, must provide for their families, and have to work too. Therefore, it’s honestly impossible (and at it’s core illogical) to think that there exists some organization or some attorneys and or law firms that can endlessly provide free legal counsel. Anyone who were to do that would be in dire straits and in need of help themselves as they too must earn a living.

Now do you understand why I say to everyone who asks me for help, “The best way to get help is to help yourselves by getting involved?”

There’s an upcoming and incredible opportunity that I’m presently working on that I know will in fact change the system. I’m working with others to form a national non-profit organization that will seek to address the very issues that you, I, and millions of other ‘child support’ paying noncustodial parents around the nation are facing. Are you interested in joining? Rest assured that said effort will change the system on a national level, but to do be effective in doing so, others must help themselves (merely by joining) to get the help they’re seeking.

Sincerely,

Tony Fantetti

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Ohio Child Support Lawsuit: ODJFS Accused of Knowingly Over Collecting in Class Action Complaint

Editor’s Note: This is a re-post of blog entry from May 10, 2011

The lawsuit below was filed by Matt Dunlop of Ohio. If you believe that the bond between parent and child must be protected at all cost, and not broken and infringed upon so states like Ohio can “earn” a profit off of the backs of Ohio’s innocent and precious children through “child support” collections, then we implore you to please join ACFC today and get involved today, as the children need your help.

Ohio’s “child support” system is indeed in disrepute when the State of Ohio not only profits off of broken families, but in fact publicly rejoices in doing so while also simultaneously demonizing good and loving noncustodial (NC) fathers and mothers in the process. Understand that such demonizing is required so the State of Ohio can keep their profiteering hidden from public view.

Said profits to this day continue to be earned by the State, and out of nothing more than the Ohio Department of Jobs and ‘Family Servcies’ (ODFJS) promoting Ohio’s best financial interests above and beyond the genuine best interests of Ohio’s precious children. Even more deplorable and despicable than that, is that such can only be attained at the emotional expense of Ohio’s entirely innocent and very vulnerable children as both interests are mutually exclusive.

When I first learned that Dunlop v ODJFS (L0290829)was in the making and that the Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services was to be named as a Defendant, I was far beyond elated. In all truthfulness, my mood immediately elevated as my mind shifted to that of dreamlike state where I was basking in nirvana.

Admittedly, I can be quite lively in my depictions of things at times. But make no mistake, after I learned of the nature of the Complaint, I truly felt as I’ve described.

Even more fulfilling, is seeing “DOES 1 through 300, inclusive, Defendants” listed under ODJFS in the above-referenced complaint, and I eagerly anticipate seeing Kimberly Newsom-Bridges name occupying one of those DOES slots.

Ms. Newsom-Bridges is in my own humble and untrained legal opinion one of the ringleaders in what I refer to as Ohio’s “Legalized Ring of Thievery” that’s otherwise euphemistically known as Ohio’s “Child Support” Enforcement Agency (CSEA).

Personally, I prefer to use the acronym Ohio CSEA to described what it really means, as well as what they truly stand for, and that’s the Ohio Child Support Extortion Agency. Rest assured that they will forcefully, and under a very dark color of law, shakedown anyone that they can get their filthy, greedy, “88-county hands” on. Included in said extortion are those innocent victims of paternity fraud whereby it’s proven in Court that said fathers cannot possibly be the parent of the children that they’re ordered to pay “child support” for.

And the CSEA couldn’t care less about the truth in that matter, as they care only about the profit they extract from those “fathers” who are extorted by the Ohio CSEA under the constant threat of arrest, incarceration, liens, bank account/security accounts and asset seizures for “support” for children that aren’t theirs. Don’t forget now, that Ohio’s CSEAs claim that their actions are “in the best interests of the children?” Really??? Just how is seizing the money of someone who’s known to NOT be the father “in the best interest of the children?” Please, do tell? Perhaps I’ll email Ms. Kimberly Newsom-Bridges, Director of the OCDA, President of the NCSEA and ask her?

Back to my state of mind when I was informed of the impending suit, and to continue from where I left off above; I was enamored with a blissful sense of justice for the first time in about seven years when I first learned of MPP’s intent to file the complaint. Those seven years have been a very long and horrific span of time that began after Ohio’s “Child Support” House-of-Horrors opened its doors and forced me in so as to partake in their ongoing freak-show. Said inclusion was effected via the strong arm of the Domestic Relations Court whereby to this day it extracts my continual albeit unwilling participation. You must understand that you can’t just “quit playing,” as to quit, eventually ends in incarceration for those who no longer want to play.

I will forever and very vividly remember the heightened and overwhelming sense of positive emotions I was feeling while participating in discussions and learning for the first time that the complaint was to be filed. I can only begin to describe it from the perspective of one who’s been given another chance at life after having experienced years of very exacting (both emotionally and financially) and monumental continual failures that were not caused by their own actions, but by those associated with, “the system” and with unjust blame for such being placed squarely at the innocent’s feet.

More specifically, failures such as a painful and forced separation from one’s children, bankruptcy, loss of driver’s license, homelessness, loss of employment, ruined credit, being unemployable. Those and other ills that were waylaid upon good and loving fathers (and noncustodial mothers) by Ohio’s “child support” system. Such is done by those who are tasked with the destructive duties of destroying the lives of noncustodial parents (NCPs) in their abusive efforts to bleed those loving parents dry in their efforts to “get blood from a turnip.”

Next, you were wrongfully and very publicly humiliated as a “deadbeat dad” on TV, billboards, pizza boxes and via other very public means, after the State of Ohio and her many CSEA minions destroyed your life, and in turn the lives of your innocent children. That, because those now very confused and frightened little Ohio children had their entire lives and worlds very hatefully and inhumanely turned upside-down as a direct result of those contemptuously willful CSEA and ODJFS actions. Just picture little toddlers pointing at the TV and screaming hysterically, “MOMMY WHY ARE THEY TAKING DADDY AWAY???” as they watched in horror as said terrifying pandemonium played out right before their eyes in the swirl of flashing red and blue lights on the TV in front of them.

That was done so the State of Ohio can “profit” off of the backs of Ohio’s precious and innocent children by using them to shakedown their NCPs and in many cases bankrupting them. That allows Ohio to maximize its “share” of the Federal Government’s Title IV-D Section 451 Federal Incentive Match that we as taxpayers fund through our Social Security payroll tax, and as described in Title IV Part D Section 451 of the Social Security Act.

So what about this civil action lead to my immediate escape into a Utopian dreamworld after I learned of it? It’s simple; justice. This case is proof positive of what I’ve been saying for years, and that being, “Ohio’s increasingly abusive and punitive “child-support” collections efforts have nothing to do with the old worn-out (only in the sense that the the State of Ohio uses it and what they mean by it) phrase, “it’s in the best interests of the children.”

Ohio and her 88 county collection’s agents otherwise known as the “Child Support” Enforcement Agency care nothing about the children they purport to “collect on behalf of” and instead have used those very same children for decades to demonize alleged “deadbeat dads” and thereby distract the public from the following very inconvenient truth; Ohio has “earned” hundreds of millions in dollars in “profits” off of “child support” collections over the years. In truth, I suspect that number is closer to one billion dollars.

The motive behind their decades-long and increasingly hateful and abusive campaign whereby they’ve wrongfully maligned (and ruined) many innocent good and loving noncustodial mothers and fathers, can be easily exposed with Ohio’s own statutes as read here where they state in part in ORC 3119.07:

“(A) Except when the parents have split parental rights and responsibilities, a parent’s child support obligation for a child for whom the parent is the residential parent and legal custodian shall be presumed to be spent on that child and shall not become part of a child support order, and a parent’s child support obligation for a child for whom the parent is not the residential parent and legal custodian shall become part of a child support order.”

Please allow me to elaborate on two things in that statute. First, the word “shall” in a legal sense means “you must,” and it’s important to comprehend what that really means.
For example, the Judges and Magistrates of the Courts as well as all CSEA personnel must assume that every dollar of every “child support” payment made to the custodial parent (CP) is in fact spent on the children of that order.

Said otherwise, and from a legal perspective (and not from one of reality), there is no legal mechanism to think otherwise and therefore said statement is accepted as an incontrovertible fact. Additionally, it would still be so even if the custodial parent were to stand up in open court and declare under oath, “I don’t spend a dime of that money on my children!”

So with all of the aforementioned persons/institutions being instructed by Ohio statute to “think a certain way”, simple logic and reality dictate otherwise; the fact that in most cases, “child support” dollars are NOT spent on the children of that order and are in fact spent by the custodial parent to support their own lifestyle.

And please, don’t comment here and say, “but they have to pay rent or a mortgage, provide clothing for the child, food, pay auto insurance etc etc etc” because so does the noncustodial “child-support” paying parent (aka the Obligor of an order) who in addition to what’s enumerated, must also provide health insurance that is some cases in nearly $1,000/month or more.

I personally have seen many “Child Support Moms” swipe their Ohio e-Quickpay “child support” debit card at the checkout line to purchase beer, cigarettes, liquor, and a host of other items that one could reasonably assume aren’t for a child. Not only that, those same debit cards can be used in bars, restaurants, casinos, strip clubs, to book travel, airfare and anywhere MasterCard is accepted.

Next, I read a study a couple of years ago that I unfortunately can’t locate that was undertaken by a third-party without any outward biases. Said study overwhelmingly concluded that no more than 30-35% (and that was considered a generous number) of “child support” payments were in fact spent on the children of the order. The rest of the money was spent to support the CP’s lifestyle.

Also, factor in that there are many known and documented cases where the children of a “child support” order are living with the noncustodial father, and that, while he makes “child support” payments to the custodial mother. Remember, ODJFS clamors that this is “in the best interest of the children.” Really? How?

The point I’m leading up to is this; how can the State of Ohio, ODJFS or Ohio’s CSEAs even begin to claim that they’re acting “in the best interests of the children” in effecting their abusive “child support” collection methods whereby they bankrupt, humiliate and incarcerate good and loving noncustodial mothers and fathers, when in fact they have no idea whatsoever where, or on whom, those “child support” dollars are spent?

Remember, they’re instructed by statute to take the position that the monies (all of it) are in fact spent on the children of the order, when in truth not only do they not know, they don’t even care! All ODJFS cares about is collecting as much money as possible (annually, since the match is based on annual collections) given that the amount of their Federal Incentive Match is directly proportional to their annual statewide “child support” collections. Now do you understand why Ohio regularly over-collects as well as collects from some who don’t even owe?

Moreover, not only does statute “tell them how to think” in regard to money spent, Ohio’s “child support” statutes have no provision whatsoever that even allows the Courts or CSEAs to demand to know where the monies are being spent. Said otherwise, no one save for God and the custodial parent knows, or for that matter is allowed to know, where those “child support” dollars are spent.

Using simple logic, and given that Ohio’s CSEAs claim to only be acting “in the best interest of the children” in their abusive and draconian collections efforts that lead to the filing of the lawsuit, how can they possibly be making such a claim without even knowing where those billions of dollars they’re collecting are being spent?

I’ll answer that; they can’t, they know they can’t, and most importantly they don’t care that they can’t, because they have only one goal and one alone: Maximize Ohio’s annual statewide “child support” collections, and at any cost. That, only so they in turn can maximize Ohio’s share of the Federal Government’s annual Federal Incentive match that’s described in the link above to Title IV Part D Section 451 of the Social Security Act.

If you doubt the claims I’ve made with regard to the reasons regarding how abusive Ohio’s CSEAs have been and continue to be, and you are therefore suspect of me, then ask yourself this; did you even know that the State of Ohio “earns” a profit off of each and every “child support” payment that’s made in Ohio? If not, then why not?

Additionally, the reason I almost always put quotes around the words “child support” is because I do live in a reality where I recognize that a LOT of custodial parents are making a lot of money via “child support” off the backs of their own precious children and not spending even a dime of it on those same children whose very lives have been destroyed by it. That said, I refuse to call “child support” what it’s not-“support for the children.”

Sincerely,

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights
Email: tony.fantetti@ocffr.org

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Ohio Child Support Lawsuit: ODJFS Accused of Knowingly Over Collecting in Class Action Complaint

Editor’s Note: This is a repost of a blog entry that was made on May 10, 2011.

The lawsuit below was filed by Matt Dunlop of Ohio. If you believe that the bond between parent and child must be protected at all cost, and not broken and infringed upon so states like Ohio can “earn” a profit off of the backs of Ohio’s innocent and precious children through “child support” collections, then we implore you to please join ACFC today and get involved today, as the children need your help.

Ohio’s “child support” system is indeed in disrepute when the State of Ohio not only profits off of broken families, but in fact publicly rejoices in doing so while also simultaneously demonizing good and loving noncustodial (NC) fathers and mothers in the process. Understand that such demonizing is required so the State of Ohio can keep their profiteering hidden from public view.

Said profits to this day continue to be earned by the State, and out of nothing more than the Ohio Department of Jobs and ‘Family Servcies’ (ODFJS) promoting Ohio’s best financial interests above and beyond the genuine best interests of Ohio’s precious children. Even more deplorable and despicable than that,  is that such can only be attained at the emotional expense of Ohio’s entirely innocent and very vulnerable  children as both interests are mutually exclusive.

When I first learned that Dunlop v ODJFS (L0290829) was in the making and that the Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services was to be named as a Defendant, I was far beyond elated. In all truthfulness, my mood immediately elevated as my mind shifted to that of dreamlike state where I was basking in nirvana.

Admittedly, I can be quite lively in my depictions of things at times. But make no mistake, after I learned of the nature of the Complaint, I truly felt as I’ve described.

Even more fulfilling, is seeing “DOES 1 through 300, inclusive, Defendants” listed under ODJFS in the above-referenced complaint, and I eagerly anticipate seeing Kimberly Newsom-Bridges name occupying one of those DOES slots.

Ms. Newsom-Bridges is in my own humble and untrained legal opinion one of the ringleaders in what I refer to as Ohio’s “Legalized Ring of Thievery” that’s otherwise euphemistically known as Ohio’s “Child Support” Enforcement Agency (CSEA).

Personally, I prefer to use the acronym Ohio CSEA to described what it really means, as well as what they truly stand for, and that’s the Ohio Child Support Extortion Agency. Rest assured that they will forcefully, under the threat of contempt, arrest, incarceration and under a very dark color of law, shakedown anyone that they can get their filthy, greedy, “88-county hands” on. Included in said extortion are those innocent victims of paternity fraud whereby it’s proven in Court that said fathers cannot possibly be the parent of the children that they’re ordered to pay “child support” for.

And the CSEA couldn’t care less about the truth in that matter, as they care only about the profit they extract from those “fathers” who are extorted by the Ohio CSEA under the constant threat of arrest, incarceration, liens, bank account/security accounts and asset seizures for “support” for children that aren’t theirs. Don’t forget now, that Ohio’s CSEAs claim that their actions are “in the best interests of the children?” Really??? Just how is seizing the money of someone who’s known to NOT be the father “in the best interest of the children?” Please, do tell? Perhaps I’ll email Ms. Kimberly Newsom-Bridges, Director of the OCDA, President of the NCSEA and ask her?

Back to my state of mind when I was informed of the impending suit, and to continue from where I left off above; I was enamored with a blissful sense of justice for the first time in about seven years when I first learned of MPP’s intent to file the complaint.  Those seven years have been a very long and horrific span of time that began after Ohio’s “Child Support” House-of-Horrors opened its doors and forced me in so as to partake in their ongoing freak-show. Said inclusion was effected via the strong arm of the Domestic Relations Court whereby to this day it extracts my continual albeit unwilling participation. You must understand that you can’t just “quit playing,” as to quit, eventually ends in incarceration for those who no longer want to play.

I will forever and very vividly remember the heightened and overwhelming sense of positive emotions I was feeling while participating in discussions and learning for the first time that the complaint was to be filed. I can only begin to describe it from the perspective of one who’s been given another chance at life after having experienced years of very exacting (both emotionally and financially) and monumental continual failures that were not caused by their own actions, but by those associated with, “the system” and with unjust blame for such being placed squarely at the innocent’s feet.

More specifically,  failures such as a painful and forced separation from one’s children, bankruptcy, loss of driver’s license, homelessness, loss of employment, ruined credit, being unemployable. Those and other ills that were waylaid upon good and loving fathers (and noncustodial mothers) by Ohio’s “child support” system. Such is done by those who are tasked with the destructive duties of destroying the lives of noncustodial parents (NCPs) in their abusive efforts to bleed those loving parents dry in their efforts to “get blood from a turnip.”

Next, you were wrongfully and very publicly humiliated as a “deadbeat dad” on TV, billboards, pizza boxes and via other very public means, after the State of Ohio and her many CSEA minions destroyed your life, and in turn the lives of your innocent children. That, because those now very confused and frightened little Ohio children had their entire lives and worlds very hatefully and inhumanely turned upside-down as a direct result of those contemptuously willful CSEA and ODJFS actions. Just picture little toddlers pointing at the TV and screaming hysterically, “MOMMY WHY ARE THEY TAKING DADDY AWAY???” as they watched in horror as said terrifying pandemonium played out right before their eyes in the swirl of flashing red and blue lights on the TV in front of them.

That was done so the State of Ohio can “profit” off of the backs of Ohio’s precious and innocent children by using them to shakedown their NCPs and in many cases bankrupting them. That allows Ohio to maximize its “share” of the Federal Government’s Title IV-D Section 451 Federal Incentive Match that we as taxpayers fund through our Social Security payroll tax, and as described in Title IV Part D Section 451 of the Social Security Act.

So what about this civil action lead to my immediate escape into a Utopian dreamworld after I learned of it? It’s simple; justice. This case is proof positive of what I’ve been saying for years, and that being, “Ohio’s increasingly abusive and punitive “child-support” collections efforts have nothing to do with the old worn-out (only in the sense that the the State of Ohio uses it and what they mean by it)  phrase, “it’s in the best interests of the children.”

Ohio and her 88 county collection’s agents otherwise known as the “Child Support” Enforcement Agency care nothing about the children they purport to “collect on behalf of” and instead have used those very same children for decades to demonize alleged “deadbeat dads” and thereby distract the public from the following very inconvenient truth; Ohio has “earned” hundreds of millions in dollars in “profits” off of “child support” collections over the years. In truth, I suspect that number is closer to one billion dollars.

The motive behind their decades-long and increasingly hateful and abusive campaign whereby they’ve wrongfully maligned (and ruined) many innocent good and loving noncustodial mothers and fathers, can be easily exposed with Ohio’s own statutes as read here where they state in part in ORC 3119.07:

“(A) Except when the parents have split parental rights and responsibilities, a parent’s child support obligation for a child for whom the parent is the residential parent and legal custodian shall be presumed to be spent on that child and shall not become part of a child support order, and a parent’s child support obligation for a child for whom the parent is not the residential parent and legal custodian shall become part of a child support order.”

Please allow me to elaborate on two things in that statute. First, the word “shall” in a legal sense means “you must,” and it’s important to comprehend what that really means.
For example, the Judges and Magistrates of the Courts as well as all CSEA personnel must assume that every dollar of every “child support” payment made to the custodial parent (CP) is in fact spent on the children of that order.

Said otherwise, and from a legal perspective (and not from one of reality), there is no legal mechanism to think otherwise and therefore said statement is accepted as an incontrovertible fact. Additionally, it would still be so even if the custodial parent were to stand up in open court and declare under oath, “I don’t spend a dime of that money on my children!”

So with all of the aforementioned persons/institutions being instructed by Ohio statute to “think a certain way”, simple logic and reality dictate otherwise; the fact that in most cases, “child support” dollars are NOT spent on the children of that order and are in fact spent by the custodial parent to support their own lifestyle.

And please, don’t comment here and say, “but they have to pay rent or a mortgage, provide clothing for the child, food, pay auto insurance etc etc etc” because so does the noncustodial “child-support” paying parent (aka the Obligor of an order) who in addition to what’s enumerated, must also provide health insurance that is some cases in nearly $1,000/month or more.

I personally have seen many “Child Support Moms” swipe their Ohio e-Quickpay “child support” debit card at the checkout line to purchase beer, cigarettes, liquor, and a host of other items that one could reasonably assume aren’t for a child. Not only that, those same debit cards can be used in bars, restaurants, casinos, strip clubs, to book travel, airfare and anywhere MasterCard is accepted.

Next, I read a study a couple of years ago that I unfortunately can’t locate that was undertaken by a third-party without any outward biases. Said study overwhelmingly concluded that no more than 30-35% (and that was considered a generous number) of “child support” payments were in fact spent on the children of the order. The rest of the money was spent to support the CP’s lifestyle.

Also, factor in that there are many known and documented cases where the children of a “child support” order are living with the noncustodial father, and that, while he makes “child support” payments to the custodial mother. Remember, ODJFS clamors that this is “in the best interest of the children.” Really? How?

The point I’m leading up to is this; how can the State of Ohio, ODJFS or Ohio’s CSEAs even begin to claim that they’re acting “in the best interests of the children” in effecting their abusive “child support” collection methods whereby they bankrupt, humiliate and incarcerate good and loving noncustodial mothers and fathers, when in fact they have no idea whatsoever where, or on whom, those “child support” dollars are spent?

Remember, they’re instructed by statute to take the position that the monies (all of it) are in fact spent on the children of the order, when in truth not only do they not know, they don’t even care! All ODJFS cares about is collecting as much money as possible (annually, since the match is based on annual collections)  given that the amount of their Federal Incentive Match is directly proportional to their annual statewide “child support” collections.  Now do you understand why Ohio regularly over-collects as well as collects from some who don’t even owe?

Moreover, not only does statute “tell them how to think” in regard to money spent, Ohio’s “child support” statutes have no provision whatsoever that even allows the Courts or CSEAs to demand to know where the monies are being spent. Said otherwise, no one save for God and the custodial parent knows, or for that matter is allowed to know, where those “child support” dollars are spent.

Using simple logic, and given that Ohio’s CSEAs claim to only be acting “in the best interest of the children” in their abusive and draconian collections efforts that lead to the filing of the lawsuit, how can they possibly be making such a claim without even knowing where those billions of dollars they’re collecting are being spent?

I’ll answer that; they can’t, they know they can’t, and most importantly they don’t care that they can’t, because they have only one goal and one alone: Maximize Ohio’s annual statewide “child support” collections, and at any cost. That, only so they in turn can maximize Ohio’s share of the Federal Government’s annual Federal Incentive match that’s described in the link above to Title IV Part D Section 451 of the Social Security Act.

If you doubt the claims I’ve made with regard to the reasons regarding how abusive Ohio’s CSEAs have been and continue to be, and you are therefore suspect of me, then ask yourself this; did you even know that the State of Ohio “earns” a profit off of each and every “child support” payment that’s made in Ohio? If not, then why not?

Additionally, the reason I almost always put quotes around the words “child support” is because I do live in a reality where I recognize that a LOT of custodial parents are making a lot of money via “child support” off the backs of their own precious children and not spending even a dime of it on those same children whose very lives have been destroyed by it. That said, I refuse to call “child support” what it’s not-“support for the children.”

Sincerely,

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights
Email: tony.fantetti@ocffr.org

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Ohio Moves to Separate Children from their Fathers by Defunding its Fatherhood Program

Since founding this organization in 2007, I’ve always maintained that Ohio’s highly abusive (and as alleged  in this recently filed lawsuit;  fraudulent and wrongfully collected) ‘child support’ collections efforts aren’t effected “in the best interests of the children” as the State falsely purports. Rather, I’ve argued time and again, and with evidentiary support for my position, that such was and is done only out of the Ohio’s best financial interests. Said interests are achieved at the emotional expense and on the backs of the children from Ohio’s many broken families.

Remember, Ohio has steadfastly maintained for more than a decade that they aggressively pursue those who are behind  in their child support obligations out of “the best interests of the children.” This includes those loving fathers who through no fault of their own, and for reasons such as unemployment, hospitalization cancer, heart attack etc couldn’t meet said obligation and despite wanting very badly to do so.

Ohio’s response to those good and loving fathers? The State suspended their driver’s licenses and thereby prevented those dads from driving to see their children. It suspended their professional licenses, so those dads (and noncustodial moms) who were truck drivers, attorneys, nurses, doctors, professional surveyors, professional engineers, postal carriers, and teachers couldn’t work. How does one meet their support obligation when their ability to work depends on the very license that was suspended? Or, how do you work, when you’re prohibited by the State from driving to work?

In some cases, Ohio incarcerated some dads to “punish them” and teach them to pay their child support. So the State, takes away their ability to drive to work by suspending drivers licenses. For those who could overcome that barrier by walking, riding a bike or taking the bus to work, Ohio also suspended their State mandated license that’s required for them to legally work, and so that they can’t work. Lastly, some are then indicted and subsequently convicted and incarcerated for Felony Criminal Nonsupport of a Minor Child.

For those professional workers who’s career requires their criminal history that’s free from felony charges and or convictions as a condition of employment, they’ll never work again in that field, ever. Additionally, and after they’re incarcerated and under Ohio Law, their children are forbidden from visiting them in jail because they’re the victim of his crime. Really? How exactly does this and what’s said in the prior two paragraphs in anyway benefit the children involved? Simply because it’s said to, and has been so for more than two decades by the State of Ohio,  that such is done “only in the best interests of the children?”

I’ve deconstructed that lie time and again with substantiating facts, and will do so again now, but with additional rebuttals I’ve not used in the past. I personally understand the depth and magnitude of the great lengths Ohio has gone to in its efforts to promote its false propaganda in order to hide its child support profiteering from the public. The most significant and heart-wrenching method was also that which was not coincidentally most effective; demonize all child support paying fathers.

That was done through televised “deadbeat dad” roundups. Imagine the horror of a young child as they watched their own innocent father get arrested and taken away by police on television, or seeing their father on billboards or pizza boxes. Make no mistake, there’s nothing about that where anyone can logically claim that such is good for any child. Using common sense, how can anyone arrive at a conclusion other than the one whereby they think to themselves, “that’s not right”, and therefore acknowledge that it’s indeed harmful to those children who see their fathers demonized in such manners?

In reference to my earlier promise to produce more facts that in my opinion, unequivocally substantiates my claim that Ohio falsely claims to be acting “in the best interest of the children” in effecting their child support collections efforts , please carefully consider the remainder of what’s written herein.

First, the “best interest of the child” is mutually exclusive to the Ohio’s best financial interest, as the later cannot be achieved without harming the former. That’s because the two are diametrically opposed as explained in the forthcoming.

The following is a well known fact that’s both widely and publicly acknowledged by the Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services (ODJFS), the Ohio CSEA Directors’ Association (OCDA) and the National Child Support Enforcement Association (NCSEA);
Ohio (as do all states) literally earns a profit from EVERY child support dollar that’s collected by the 88 county Child Support Enforcement Agencies (CSEAs).

Said profit is earned by two things; one is through the 2% processing fee (aka poundage fee) that the obligor (aka child support paying non-custodial parent) must pay to the CSEA for the privilege of being required by law to pay their “child support” obligation through a CSEA. Understand that such is done for a very good reason as it lays the foundation for maximizing the profit the State earns through method number two which is also the most lucrative; the annual “Federal Incentive Match” that the NCSEA is so desperately trying to save here as it’s without doubt, their very golden goose.

The Federal Incentive Match is paid by you, the taxpayer, through your Social Security payroll tax. Yet another reason Social Security is insolvent. I say that, because there exists no trust fund where said funds are held. If you disagree with that, then please comment here and post the account number of it to refute my claim.

Additionally, the amount of those annual Federal matching dollars is directly proportional to the total annual amount of Ohio’s statewide child support collections. Said otherwise, the more total support dollars Ohio collects statewide on an annual basis, the more they will earn in profits through their Federal matching contribution. Put simply, the more they collect, the more they earn in federally funded (by you the taxpayer) profits. You must understand that to understand what follows.

Putting all of their propaganda and euphemisms aside, there exists only one way for Ohio to maximize its annual statewide child support collections, and that’s to mine the pockets of more and non-custodial parents (obligors) by “squeezing them” through all means be they legal or otherwise. I would like to add that the aforementioned civil action is a testament to that as the nature of that complaint is that Ohio wrongfully over-collected more than 100 million dollars in child support that many obligors weren’t required to pay. Even worse, is that Ohio charged those same obligors a 2% processing  fee to essentially steal money they were never entitled too. Why would Ohio do that? I would hope your honestly answering that question for yourself by now.

How can Ohio “squeeze” non-custodial parents without the public taking notice? By spreading false propaganda that includes demonizing all child support paying parents with campaigns such as televised “Deadbeat Dad” roundups, wanted posters, wanted billboards, pizza boxes etc.

Additionally, by waging the aforementioned propaganda war against the many innocents who lost their jobs through no fault of their own or were hospitalized, sick, paralyzed and or on disability and therefore couldn’t (but wanted to) pay their support obligation. Such actions were (and still are) undertaken while simultaneously falsely claiming to be doing the same only in the “best interests of the children.” In doing that, the public was (and is) deceived and therefore cheered it on and supported every hateful bit of all of it. Additionally, the media, and without question, fed (and continues to)  the propaganda to the public and presented it as  factual.

Ohio continues to demonize everyone who fell behind, and regardless of their unintended reasons for doing so. Moreover, the public and the press all gleefully and proudly continue to play along for the most part, however due to the efforts of many organizations, that’s starting to change.

So why does Ohio suspend professional licenses and drivers licenses of those who are working, or seeking work, and trying to meet their obligation? It’s simple, money, and lots more of it.

Now, remember that we’re told by the State that suspending said licenses (and thereby preventing noncustodial fathers from seeing their children in some cases) is “in the best interests of the children.” Aside from the fact that it’s certainly not, as anyone with any common sense can deduce, there’s a truthful and more sinister reason why that’s done. It’s called a profit. Those same people have to pay large amounts of money to the State in order to reinstate those suspended licenses.

Obviously, preventing a father from driving so his children can see him, or preventing him from working so he can financially support them is in no way in the best interests of the children. It’s quite to the contrary ,and is in fact in Ohio’s best financial interests which can only be achieved at the emotional expense of the children. How is that you ask? Actively preventing children from seeing their father by suspending his driver’s license is both child abuse as well as emotionally damaging. Who benefits from such, the children or the State of Ohio? Additionally, who has to suffer so that the State can benefit? The children. How does the State benefit? Through those suspended license reinstatement fees levied and collected. How do the children benefit from the same? They don’t, they suffer as a direct result of it.  How? Their fathers can’t drive to visit them, and he can’t work to provide financial support for them.

I offer you another example that proves the same. Why are those child support dollars paid over 18 years with canceled checks to prove it deemed “gifts” and the obligor assigned an arrears (well in excess of $100,000 in some cases) at the stroke of a pen when a judge or CSEA official merely declares it’s so, and without the required supporting evidentiary facts in some cases? For a profit. How’s that “in the best interest of the children?” It’s not, they suffer. How so? When their dads go bankrupt, some become homeless, they can’t put food on the table, and they’re unable to provide for their children. Who benefits? The State. How? They profit. At whose expense? The children, the father, and the new family that father is also supporting.

As I said earlier the State’s financial interests and the children’s best interests are both mutually exclusive and diametrically opposed. The children must suffer in order for the State to profit.

To further drive that point home, consider that there exists under Ohio’s statutes the Ohio Commission on Fatherhood that was established in 1998 to advance Fatherhood in the State if Ohio. Truth be told, I personally consider some of what the Fatherhood Commission promotes to be an affront to all fathers. For instance “building the parenting skills of fathers” and “reconcile fathers with their families.”

Both of those in my humble opinion are based on two very insulting assumptions about fathers as a whole; 1. Fathers can’t parent by nature and therefore must be told how to do so, and 2. Fathers are purposefully and willfully absent from their children’s lives and that’s the very wholesale lie that’s been pandered by the State for more than a decade to demonize all fathers. Most fathers who are separated from their children are so because the courts have ordered it through “visitation” schedules. Additionally, and quite tragically, there are many mothers who won’t allow a father to visit his children.

If you scroll to the last sentence of the last paragraph titled Healthy Marriage and Responsible Fatherhood Grants on the US Department Health and Human Services website it reads,

“The $75 million in Responsible Fatherhood funds may be used for fatherhood activities intended to promote or sustain marriage, responsible parenting, economic stability, and media campaigns that reach families with important messages about responsible fatherhood.

“That $75 million is half of what’s allocated as explained in the first line of that same paragraph where it states,

“The FY 2012 budget proposes continued funding of $150 million to support Healthy Marriages and Responsible Fatherhood to be administered by HHS’ Office of Family Assistance within the Administration for Children and Families. These funds will be split equally among Healthy Marriage and Responsible Fatherhood activities.

The chart on this page shows that expenditures (total “enforcement” dollars) spent by the Federal Government to enforce child support orders in 2010 was $5.77 billion dollars. As shown above, the amount of expenditures to reconnect fathers with their children and “teach fathers how to parent” is a paltry $75 million dollars. Stated otherwise it’s a 50:1 ratio when comparing the amount spent on support enforcement versus that spent on reconnecting fathers with their children.

Keep in mind that the $75 million being spent is done so by lecturing fathers, or in my opinion, degrading them as most fathers didn’t choose to be separated from their children. They’re separated through force, and under the threat of arrest and contempt in some cases by the courts whereby on a national level 84% of mothers are awarded sole custody of the children by the courts, while the father is turned into a paying visitor to them.

When one considers that the number one reason children grow up without a father in their lives is because of the court-ordered separation of a father from his children, or stated otherwise, court-ordered father absenteeism, then one can begin to understand how I consider that  $75 million spent on Fatherhood programs is in some cases an insult to those dads who didn’t ask to be, nor did they ever want to be, separated from their children.

So where does the State of Ohio factor into this equation? The answer can be found right here. If Ohio were truly concerned about the “best interest of the children” would they really defund the only program in the state that aims to reconnect fathers with their children? Of course not; they’d find other areas to make cuts such as in child support enforcement.

Why is the State choosing to defund the only Fatherhood program of which one purpose is to reconnect children with their fathers instead of cutting child support enforcement by the same amount, which would in turn save the Ohio Commission on Fatherhood instead of eliminating its existence? One word; profit.

Given that the State profits off of each and every child support dollar that’s collected, the last thing Ohio will do it cut back on its enforcement program because not only does it pay, it pays dearly. It’s also in the credit column in the same ledger where the Ohio Commission on Fatherhood is in the debit column.  So what’s juxtaposed there is a profit versus a “loss,” and fathers and their children must lose in order for the State of Ohio to profit off of their misery.

As shown here at the very bottom in Table F titled “Incentive Pool Payment, FY 2000-2010″ the total incentive match for fiscal year 2010 is $504,000,000. And that pool is the “prize” that Ohio and every state chases each year. Additionally, the metrics that define “who wins how much” is all based on enforcement measures only. The criteria for the Federal Incentive Match can only be met through punitive measures.  So $504,000,000 is awarded to those who effect the most profitable punitive measures against fathers, while a mere $75,000,000 is awarded under the auspices of those trying to help fathers. We musn’t forget that in total, there’s $5.77 billion spent to punish fathers.

Consider that the States through the courts forcefully separate single fathers from their children via full custody awards to mothers in 84% of all contested custody cases nationwide. The courts will sometimes order “visitation” schedules (child support is always awarded and without regard to visitation rights) where a father is given permission to see his children.

Grant it, the amount of time he’s allowed to spend with them in many cases is next to nothing. With that in mind, consider that other fathers (and for no good or justifiable reason) are not allowed to see or contact their children, and if he violates that order, he’s subject to contempt, fines, arrest and finally, incarceration. That’s so, even if he only tries to contact them.

It’s that right there; lecturing fathers about “responsible fatherhood” (which is one goal of “responsible fatherhood programs”) that’s reeks of contemptuous hypocrisy of the highest order. How is that you ask? It is so because the majority of “absent fathers” have been ordered by the courts to either not have any contact with their children, or to have little contact with them. A father who has been granted a visitation schedule of every other weekend or a mere few hours per month is for the most part, an absent father, but not by his choice.

Add to the mix those custodial mothers who willfully and hatefully prevent a father from seeing his children (and I do recognize that some custodial fathers do the same and it’s just as inexcusable) and one can easily see that it’s the courts, through the enforcement of very anti-father state statutes, that have caused most of the father absenteeism that’s so prevalent today.

From the preceding, one can logically conclude that the State and Federal Governments, as well as the courts, care next to nothing about thst father and child bond, or father and child friendly policies such as reconnecting children with the fathers they so dearly miss. Nor do they care anything about the fact that those fathers that said governments and courts sanctimoniously lecture about “responsible fatherhood” are in fact the very same who are also the victims of court-ordered father absenteeism.

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights
Email: tony.fantetti@ocffr.org

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Why The System is as it is and Won’t Change…Yet

They’re endless, “about me,” all that matters, and the reason Ohio’s “Family Court” system and the “Child Support” Enforcement Agency (CSEA) are as they are.

They truly believe their situation to be unique, the most important of all, and deserving of mine and others immediate attention. They promise everything and in nearly every case deliver nothing. They scream the loudest, believe that they should be heard, and that because they’re situation is “different.”

Who are they? They are predictable, make the same empty promise, are not to be believed in most cases, and contact me daily via emails that have the same two worn-out lines; “what can I do to get involved” and “please help.” The first is an insincere offer that only serves as an introduction to the latter which is the real motive behind their email.

“What can I do to get involved” is  truly a head fake that’s really a false cover for “my case is unique, I’m being abused, and I therefore deserve your undivided attention and unlimited resources, all for free of course. “Please help” is really why they’re contacting those that they are.

Am I being uncaring, cold, and flippant? Nope, only truthful in stating why “the System” is so anti-father, anti-noncustodial parent, and why things don’t change.

If many of those who’ve approached me over the last four years had the attitude of serving others instead of looking to better their own case by using others, things might very well be different today.

Understand that there are millions out there who fire off emails every day to some father’s rights (or the like) organization who seek only to help themselves and not others. That therein is the very problem that allows the present lunacy and contempt for noncustodial parents and their children by “the System” to perpetuate.

Nearly every noncustodial mom and dad has their own visitation and child support horror stories and they’re indeed truly sad. Some are incredibly heartbreaking, while others are downright disturbing and unnerving.

However, even more sad in some cases is the fact that so few are willing to chart their own (and their child’s, especially those with sons) course by getting involved so as to change the course of theirs and their child’s future. Why is that so? Simply because those very same people are those who are desperately needed in a vast mutiny to force the necessary change.

So to those who are always pleading “I need help” I ask, do you, and more importantly, do you really mean that? If you did, you would get involved as that’s the best way to help yourself. Things will continue to be as they are until you decide enough is enough and finally become active in fighting against this.

But so it is and will be; millions will continue to ask for help, while only a few of the same will get actively involved. Worse is that they don’t realize that getting involved is to help both themselves and others, who’ll in turn do the same. When that happens we’ll see great changes for the better, and such will truly be in the best interest of the children.

There’s a new organization currently being formed on a national level that will make a significant difference and will surely be a force to be reckoned with. The domain is in place, the charter is being written, a trademark is in progress, the web site is under construction, and Board members under consideration. Are you interested? I’d like to see a million members join and believe that’s easily attainable given what we’ll be standing for.

To those who’re presently assisting with that, I want to say “thank you!” Especially you “M!” In truth, you’re the first person I’ve met who possesses the same tenacity, fire and compassion as do I!

To those who read what I’ve written and say, “I don’t have time,” I ask, is that so? If you don’t have time to join and get involved, then please don’t complain nor ask others to help you as that makes you a hypocrite. To me at least, because your lack of doing so is precisely why you’re in the very position that you find yourself in as you expect others to help you? Who are you helping?

Additionally, there are those working in excess of 70 and 80 hours a week who are assisting and getting involved, so I ask you this, “do you really think that they ‘have the time?’” They have full-time jobs, children to tend to, court hearings etc etc and yet they choose to get involved because they don’t want to pass this ugliness on to their own children.

Think about it; the “child support” and Family Court juggernaut has moved forward unfettered for decades. It continues to leave in its a wake, a huge path of destruction that has decimated the lives of so many innocent and precious children who don’t have a voice in this. Their lives have been very hatefully and contemptuously waylaid in a very wanton and disgusting manner by the very system that purports to only be acting “in their best interests.” No, not true; that system only acts out of its own best financial interest which is only attainable at the expense of the children’s best interests as the two are mutually exclusive.

I believe that it’s every parent’s (especially noncustodial parents) responsibility to be an advocate for their children and thereby be one of those voices that’s working to change this very broken system as that same system is acting against the children.

Don’t believe me? How does incarcerating a child’s father for failing to pay child support after he lost his job through no fault of his own in the worst economy since the Great Depression help the child? How does suspending the same fathers drivers license so he can’t drive and “visit” his child help the child? How does suspending his professional license so he can’t go out and find a new job to start paying his “child support” help the child? Now tell me it’s all only “in the best interests of the children.”

That system operates as it does today because of those who think to themselves, “I don’t have time to assist, I don’t know how to assist,” or “others will assist so I don’t need to assist.” That thinking (all of it) couldn’t be further from the truth, and changing it begins with a simple yet very sincere, “how can “I” help?”

I do recognize that there are yet others who due to emotional and or mental problems can’t assist and that’s okay. But for those who say they’re “too stressed,” please trust me when I say you’ll truly find great relief, peace, and satisfaction in the helping of others, especially those who can’t help themselves.

Finally, donations are needed now to assist with web hosting fees and domain name purchases. Therefore, if you’re willing to assist on behalf of yourself, your children and or others, please contact me at the email below and advise as to how your willing to do so, and be that with your time, skills, financially,  all three, or “how can I help?”

Remember, change in this area is not going to come willingly by the State of Ohio, as there’s too much money (through their “child support” profits) involved for them to willingly change. Especially, in this economy. The State of Ohio has a budget too, and it doesn’t look good either.

Therefore, the hundreds of millions of dollars Ohio earns annually through statewide “child support” collections is not a sum of money that the State is going to willingly give up. Kim Newsom-Bridges and the legally sanctioned “rings of thievery” (as I refer to them, they aren’t so legally, but are so in spirit in my humble opinion) that are otherwise known as the Ohio “Child Support” Directors Association and the National “Child Support” Enforcement Association, will fight tooth and nail to keep earning their “child support” profit off not only the backs of broken families, but most importantly, off the backs of the innocent and precious children of those same families. You know them,  they’re those whom said agencies claim to only be “acting in the best interests of;” they are your beloved children.

Sincerely,

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights
Email: tony.fantetti@ocffr.org

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Homeless “Child-Support” Paying Ohio Police Officers Sleeping in Cars and Basements

I’ve heard countless stories over the years. Some were so shocking in nature that not only was I truly disturbed by them, they actually changed me. Truth be told, I’ve learned to harden my emotions as a result. Not from an empathetic perspective, but from that of a self-preservation point of view whereby I think less about what I know.

To elaborate, I’m the type of person who hyper-analyzes things. So if I didn’t force myself to forget things at times, I’d never sleep as my mind would race incessantly as I laid in bed at night pondering the “what type of person” and “who could do such a thing” type of questions.

That said, just when I think I’ve got a firm grasp on just how hateful and out-of-control the ODJFS and their financial strong-arm otherwise known as the “Child Support” Enforcement Agency (CSEA) as well as Ohio’s “Family Courts” are, someone else tells me their story. As a result, yet another layer in the depth of ugliness as it pertains to “the Family Law system” in Ohio is laid bare and thereby made painfully real to me. And I do mean painfully because this arouses such a fierce indignation in me that I’m incensed beyond what words can describe.

To convey what I’m trying to otherwise, consider this analogy. It’s like peeling an onion, only backwards. Where you layer instead of peel, but you don’t know you’re doing it until you find that next layer. Instead of getting to the core as you would when you peel, you find that you’re “peeling outward” or layering as the onion is getting bigger rather than smaller. Now apply that thinking to determining the depth of inhumanity and ugliness that’s carried out as Ohio’s CSEAs execute their functions to earn their profit on “child support” collections. In short, it’s without bounds.

I had a conversation with an Ohio Police Officer over the weekend that in truth made me so angry, that I wanted to scream out of my anger and frustration over what he was telling me. As stated earlier, I’ve heard a lot over the years, but when one considers that policemen (and by that I include policewomen) lay their lives on the line every day so that we and our children may live safely, a whole new dimension of heartless inhumanity, one that’s completely abhorrent to reason, is brought to light as it pertains to the ODJFS’ CSEAs.

Picture someone who’s homeless and sleeping in their car or in the basement of a building and that’s truly a sad thing to contemplate. Now picture that someone being a Police Officer sleeping in his car, or in the basement of a Police Station because after his “child support” is deducted from his salary that he earns by risking his life every minute of every day that he works, he has no money to pay rent. He’s been made homeless after losing everything (including most importantly unfettered access to his children) after Ohio’s CSEA order him to pay “child support.” Now, you shouldn’t just be angry after learning of that, you should be incensed beyond consolation, because that’s exactly the type of story that officer related to me during our conversation.

When it comes to the insanity of living through the first few years of dealing with Ohio’s “child support”and Domestic and/or Juvenile Relations Courts as a “child-support” paying non-custodial father in Ohio, the words demented, lunacy, insanity and hell only begin to describe the madness of the world you live in. That, as your dignity, your God-given right to be a father to your children, nearly all of your possessions and a very large portion of your net pay are all stripped from you. And for what??? what “crime” did you commit that you are so deserving of such hateful treatment that many jail inmates actually end up having more than you?

It’s simple. You made the brave decision to become a father, and in the America we live in today, becoming a single father (even through no choice nor fault of your own) doesn’t mean you deserve to be treated like a criminal, because you won’t, you’ll be treated far worse than any criminal in the Criminal Justice System and here’s why; they have rights, whereas you as a single or divorced dad do not!

Knowing how my thinking and mindset were turned inside-out and upside-down when I was first introduced to “the system” following my divorce, and considering what it took me just to get out of bed each day and merely put one foot before the other, I can’t even begin to fathom how much worse, exponentially worse, it must be for a Police Officer to have to perform their job with the full weight of Ohio’s “Family” Courts and the “Child Support” Extortion (aka Enforcement) Agency hell bearing down on their lives daily.

Add to that, a Police Officer who has no home and can’t afford to pay any rent because he doesn’t have enough money left from his own paycheck to pay rent after his “child support” deduction is taken out. He therefore must sleep in his car, or in his friends basement or the basement of the station because he has no place to call home. Understand that he can’t just work more hours to get ahead, that doesn’t work, and here’s why; “the more you make, the more they take.”

So if he puts in an additional 20-30 hours in overtime, they’ll raise his child support so much, that his net pay wouldn’t be much different than it was before. So what’s the point of risking ones life so much more to net only a minute amount of additional money each week? There is none. Even worse, if his hours get cut because the City he works for wants to save money, it’s most likely that the courts won’t lower his “child support” order after those overtime hours dry up. The court or CSEA would then declare him to be “voluntarily underemployed” and therefore order him to keep paying the higher “child support” amount.

As if being forced to play “Family Court” and then going to work and pretending to be normal wasn’t bad enough, imagine sleeping in your car all night, driving to the Police Station to shower and dress, and then going out and dealing with dangerous criminals and thugs for the next 8-15 hours. Even worse, and while all that weight bears on your mind from being homeless, not being able to see your precious children and having to deal with the harassment of your ex who’s using the Courts and the CSEA as her war hammer, imagine having to deal with some psychotic meth or crackhead who’s threatening your life with a gun, and where one mistake could cost you your life.

Now, that officer’s children whom the Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services collection agent, the CSEAs claim to acting in “the best interest of” in bankrupting that policeman through his “child support” order, would be fatherless. Would the CSEA or Court care if that happened? Of course not.

Well, allow me to take that back, as the CSEA would care in the sense that it would affect their bottom line as they could no longer profit off of his “child support” payments through their Title IV D Federal Incentive Match. Please know that as sick and disgusting as that sounds and is, I do not take lightly what I’m saying, nor am I making light of such a serious scenario. To the contrary, I’m trying to illustrate just how sick Ohio’s “child support” system is and mean what I’ve said.

The officer also told me of how the Court was harassing him about his work schedule that he obviously had no control over. He was lectured about how he was expected to be on-time for “visitation” and that he needed to have a more flexible work schedule. Who has heard of anything more stupid than telling a police officer that they must have a “flexible work schedule?” Huh? So does one infer from such a stupid statement that he would be expected to walk away from a crime scene, or stop pursuing a felony suspect because he had to leave for “visitation?” What if he’s in the middle of arresting a suspect, and has only one handcuff on and “quitting time” arrives. Does, he remove the one handcuff and turn the criminal loose as he says to them, “maybe next time, but for now, it’s quittin time because the Court said so!”

Understand that I’m not being sarcastic or facetious in writing that. Rather, I’m using that paradox to expose a critically important truth as it demonstrates just how out-of-touch as well as how culpable the Courts are, not only in their failure to address the anti-father bias in Ohio’s Domestic Relations Courts, but also in contributing to it. That in and of itself clearly demonstrates just how far from reality as well as how deep into oblivion the Courts have descended in their inability to address the needs of single and divorcing Ohio fathers. How, in a sane world, can a judicial official make such a ridiculous statement to a father who’s a police officer?

That aside, I wonder if those same stupid statements would still apply if that officer were in the midst of protecting that judge or one of his family? I highly doubt it.

I’m not sure I can think of anything lower than a society that couldn’t care less about our brave policemen and women, who as a direct result of being extorted out of exorbitant amounts of “child support,” are left homeless, must sleep in the basement of a district police station, have to take buses or taxis to work (because they can’t afford a car) and who are so close to losing it, that they’re told by their superiors that they must “get help” or face losing their jobs. But what I can think of is the reason why, which is, “for the love of money is the root of all evil.”

I can’t say what city this officer is from, but I know that more and more of his colleagues will be coming to this Blog and there’s much I have to say to all of you. First and foremost, thank you for laying your lives on the line each day to keep us and our children safe.

Next, please know that I have been where some of you are, and where others will unfortunately be. I know that sick and disgusting feeling that can overcome you at the mere thought of having to get out of bed each day, and after Ohio’s CSEAs and “Family” Courts have destroyed your life, your finances, and most of all wrecked your relationship with your children whom are also innocent victims in a very ugly game that’s “for profit.’

Please know that you are not alone, are not going crazy, don’t deserve all that’s been heaped upon you and that there are those (including myself) who do care. I myself, and after a few years of “the system” met with a National Guard Recruiter and was going to enlist and go to Iraq for “death by war,” because I’d been driven over the edge by all that I encountered. The night before I was to go to Columbus to sign the papers, I called my recruiter to advise him I’d changed my mind and explained that, “I have a five year old girl who needs her daddy.”

I too have sat alone in the dark, crying and praying for death because I wouldn’t take my own life. I regularly cursed God and shook my fists at him in defiance and that’s okay.

Never forget that your children need you and love you. No matter how bad things are, nor how bad things get, there is an end to the madness. And please, trust me when I say I know what it feels like to see that light at the end of the tunnel only to realize it’s yet another train coming at you head on, and that at the point of impact, will deliver yet another huge payload of destruction that will once again shake the foundation of your world, and everything you thought you once believed in. And to such an extent that you don’t even know who you are anymore.

As the Officer I spoke to explained to me, “our wives and girlfriends get upset because we can’t talk about or jobs with them. It’s not that we don’t want to, we just can’t because they wouldn’t understand. You’d have to experience it, be a police officer, to understand it.” Well, so it is with the House-of-Horrors that’s otherwise known as Ohio’s CSEAs and Family Courts. Others have to experience that hell for themselves to understand it or even believe in it. I have, and I do.

Please know that there are plans in the works to form another organization on a national level that will deal with these atrocities that have been, and are inflicted upon non-custodial mothers and fathers alike. It’s in that organization that I believe we’ll make great strides in tearing down this very hateful system that proudly profits off of the backs of broken families and the innocent children thereof. We have to be successful, because we CAN’T pass this very broken system onto our own children. That’s especially true for those of you with sons. Can you imagine your own son having to experience what you do when he’s an adult with children of his own?

In support of said organization, another website will be coming online that will explain more in greater detail. In the meantime, I’d like to get to know as many of you as possible. Although my contact number is no longer public, I’ve instructed the officer I spoke with to freely give it to all of you.

That said, if you ever find yourself “there” and thinking thoughts you shouldn’t be thinking, please call me any time, day or night. Thank you for doing what you do and PLEASE stay safe out there, you’re children love you, need you, and miss you.

Sincerely,

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights
Email:tony.fantetti@ocffr.org

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Ohio Child Support Lawsuit: ODJFS Accused of Knowingly Over Collecting in Class Action Complaint

The lawsuit below was filed by Matt Dunlop of Ohio. If you believe that the bond between parent and child must be protected at all cost, and not broken and infringed upon so states like Ohio can “earn” a profit off of the backs of Ohio’s innocent and precious children through “child support” collections, then we implore you to please join ACFC today and get involved today, as the children need your help.

Ohio’s “child support” system is indeed in disrepute when the State of Ohio not only profits off of broken families, but in fact publicly rejoices in doing so while also simultaneously demonizing good and loving noncustodial (NC) fathers and mothers in the process. Understand that such demonizing is required so the State of Ohio can keep their profiteering hidden from public view.

Said profits to this day continue to be earned by the State, and out of nothing more than the Ohio Department of Jobs and ‘Family Servcies’ (ODFJS) promoting Ohio’s best financial interests above and beyond the genuine best interests of Ohio’s precious children. Even more deplorable and despicable than that, is that such can only be attained at the emotional expense of Ohio’s entirely innocent and very vulnerable children as both interests are mutually exclusive.
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When I first learned that Dunlop v ODJFS (L0290829)was in the making and that the Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services was to be named as a Defendant, I was far beyond elated. In all truthfulness, my mood immediately elevated as my mind shifted to that of dreamlike state where I was basking in nirvana.

Admittedly, I can be quite lively in my depictions of things at times. But make no mistake, after I learned of the nature of the Complaint, I truly felt as I’ve described.

Even more fulfilling, is seeing “DOES 1 through 300, inclusive, Defendants” listed under ODJFS in the above-referenced complaint, and I eagerly anticipate seeing Kimberly Newsom-Bridges name occupying one of those DOES slots.

Ms. Newsom-Bridges is in my own humble and untrained legal opinion one of the ringleaders in what I refer to as Ohio’s “Legalized Ring of Thievery” that’s otherwise euphemistically known as Ohio’s “Child Support” Enforcement Agency (CSEA).

Personally, I prefer to use the acronym Ohio CSEA to described what it really means, as well as what they truly stand for, and that’s the Ohio Child Support Extortion Agency. Rest assured that they will forcefully, and under a very dark color of law, shakedown anyone that they can get their filthy, greedy, “88-county hands” on. Included in said extortion are those innocent victims of paternity fraud whereby it’s proven in Court that said fathers cannot possibly be the parent of the children that they’re ordered to pay “child support” for.

And the CSEA couldn’t care less about the truth in that matter, as they care only about the profit they extract from those “fathers” who are extorted by the Ohio CSEA under the constant threat of arrest, incarceration, liens, bank account/security accounts and asset seizures for “support” for children that aren’t theirs. Don’t forget now, that Ohio’s CSEAs claim that their actions are “in the best interests of the children?” Really??? Just how is seizing the money of someone who’s known to NOT be the father “in the best interest of the children?” Please, do tell? Perhaps I’ll email Ms. Kimberly Newsom-Bridges, Director of the OCDA, President of the NCSEA and ask her?

Back to my state of mind when I was informed of the impending suit, and to continue from where I left off above; I was enamored with a blissful sense of justice for the first time in about seven years when I first learned of MPP’s intent to file the complaint. Those seven years have been a very long and horrific span of time that began after Ohio’s “Child Support” House-of-Horrors opened its doors and forced me in so as to partake in their ongoing freak-show. Said inclusion was effected via the strong arm of the Domestic Relations Court whereby to this day it extracts my continual albeit unwilling participation. You must understand that you can’t just “quit playing,” as to quit, eventually ends in incarceration for those who no longer want to play.

I will forever and very vividly remember the heightened and overwhelming sense of positive emotions I was feeling while participating in discussions and learning for the first time that the complaint was to be filed. I can only begin to describe it from the perspective of one who’s been given another chance at life after having experienced years of very exacting (both emotionally and financially) and monumental continual failures that were not caused by their own actions, but by those associated with, “the system” and with unjust blame for such being placed squarely at the innocent’s feet.

More specifically, failures such as a painful and forced separation from one’s children, bankruptcy, loss of driver’s license, homelessness, loss of employment, ruined credit, being unemployable. Those and other ills that were waylaid upon good and loving fathers (and noncustodial mothers) by Ohio’s “child support” system. Such is done by those who are tasked with the destructive duties of destroying the lives of noncustodial parents (NCPs) in their abusive efforts to bleed those loving parents dry in their efforts to “get blood from a turnip.”

Next, you were wrongfully and very publicly humiliated as a “deadbeat dad” on TV, billboards, pizza boxes and via other very public means, after the State of Ohio and her many CSEA minions destroyed your life, and in turn the lives of your innocent children. That, because those now very confused and frightened little Ohio children had their entire lives and worlds very hatefully and inhumanely turned upside-down as a direct result of those contemptuously willful CSEA and ODJFS actions. Just picture little toddlers pointing at the TV and screaming hysterically, “MOMMY WHY ARE THEY TAKING DADDY AWAY???” as they watched in horror as said terrifying pandemonium played out right before their eyes in the swirl of flashing red and blue lights on the TV in front of them.

That was done so the State of Ohio can “profit” off of the backs of Ohio’s precious and innocent children by using them to shakedown their NCPs and in many cases bankrupting them. That allows Ohio to maximize its “share” of the Federal Government’s Title IV-D Section 451 Federal Incentive Match that we as taxpayers fund through our Social Security payroll tax, and as described in Title IV Part D Section 451 of the Social Security Act.

So what about this civil action lead to my immediate escape into a Utopian dreamworld after I learned of it? It’s simple; justice. This case is proof positive of what I’ve been saying for years, and that being, “Ohio’s increasingly abusive and punitive “child-support” collections efforts have nothing to do with the old worn-out (only in the sense that the the State of Ohio uses it and what they mean by it) phrase, “it’s in the best interests of the children.”

Ohio and her 88 county collection’s agents otherwise known as the “Child Support” Enforcement Agency care nothing about the children they purport to “collect on behalf of” and instead have used those very same children for decades to demonize alleged “deadbeat dads” and thereby distract the public from the following very inconvenient truth; Ohio has “earned” hundreds of millions in dollars in “profits” off of “child support” collections over the years. In truth, I suspect that number is closer to one billion dollars.

The motive behind their decades-long and increasingly hateful and abusive campaign whereby they’ve wrongfully maligned (and ruined) many innocent good and loving noncustodial mothers and fathers, can be easily exposed with Ohio’s own statutes as read here where they state in part in ORC 3119.07:

“(A) Except when the parents have split parental rights and responsibilities, a parent’s child support obligation for a child for whom the parent is the residential parent and legal custodian shall be presumed to be spent on that child and shall not become part of a child support order, and a parent’s child support obligation for a child for whom the parent is not the residential parent and legal custodian shall become part of a child support order.”

Please allow me to elaborate on two things in that statute. First, the word “shall” in a legal sense means “you must,” and it’s important to comprehend what that really means.
For example, the Judges and Magistrates of the Courts as well as all CSEA personnel must assume that every dollar of every “child support” payment made to the custodial parent (CP) is in fact spent on the children of that order.

Said otherwise, and from a legal perspective (and not from one of reality), there is no legal mechanism to think otherwise and therefore said statement is accepted as an incontrovertible fact. Additionally, it would still be so even if the custodial parent were to stand up in open court and declare under oath, “I don’t spend a dime of that money on my children!”

So with all of the aforementioned persons/institutions being instructed by Ohio statute to “think a certain way”, simple logic and reality dictate otherwise; the fact that in most cases, “child support” dollars are NOT spent on the children of that order and are in fact spent by the custodial parent to support their own lifestyle.

And please, don’t comment here and say, “but they have to pay rent or a mortgage, provide clothing for the child, food, pay auto insurance etc etc etc” because so does the noncustodial “child-support” paying parent (aka the Obligor of an order) who in addition to what’s enumerated, must also provide health insurance that is some cases in nearly $1,000/month or more.

I personally have seen many “Child Support Moms” swipe their Ohio e-Quickpay “child support” debit card at the checkout line to purchase beer, cigarettes, liquor, and a host of other items that one could reasonably assume aren’t for a child. Not only that, those same debit cards can be used in bars, restaurants, casinos, strip clubs, to book travel, airfare and anywhere MasterCard is accepted.

Next, I read a study a couple of years ago that I unfortunately can’t locate that was undertaken by a third-party without any outward biases. Said study overwhelmingly concluded that no more than 30-35% (and that was considered a generous number) of “child support” payments were in fact spent on the children of the order. The rest of the money was spent to support the CP’s lifestyle.

Also, factor in that there are many known and documented cases where the children of a “child support” order are living with the noncustodial father, and that, while he makes “child support” payments to the custodial mother. Remember, ODJFS clamors that this is “in the best interest of the children.” Really? How?

The point I’m leading up to is this; how can the State of Ohio, ODJFS or Ohio’s CSEAs even begin to claim that they’re acting “in the best interests of the children” in effecting their abusive “child support” collection methods whereby they bankrupt, humiliate and incarcerate good and loving noncustodial mothers and fathers, when in fact they have no idea whatsoever where, or on whom, those “child support” dollars are spent?

Remember, they’re instructed by statute to take the position that the monies (all of it) are in fact spent on the children of the order, when in truth not only do they not know, they don’t even care! All ODJFS cares about is collecting as much money as possible (annually, since the match is based on annual collections) given that the amount of their Federal Incentive Match is directly proportional to their annual statewide “child support” collections. Now do you understand why Ohio regularly over-collects as well as collects from some who don’t even owe?

Moreover, not only does statute “tell them how to think” in regard to money spent, Ohio’s “child support” statutes have no provision whatsoever that even allows the Courts or CSEAs to demand to know where the monies are being spent. Said otherwise, no one save for God and the custodial parent knows, or for that matter is allowed to know, where those “child support” dollars are spent.

Using simple logic, and given that Ohio’s CSEAs claim to only be acting “in the best interest of the children” in their abusive and draconian collections efforts that lead to the filing of the lawsuit, how can they possibly be making such a claim without even knowing where those billions of dollars they’re collecting are being spent?

I’ll answer that; they can’t, they know they can’t, and most importantly they don’t care that they can’t, because they have only one goal and one alone: Maximize Ohio’s annual statewide “child support” collections, and at any cost. That, only so they in turn can maximize Ohio’s share of the Federal Government’s annual Federal Incentive match that’s described in the link above to Title IV Part D Section 451 of the Social Security Act.

If you doubt the claims I’ve made with regard to the reasons regarding how abusive Ohio’s CSEAs have been and continue to be, and you are therefore suspect of me, then ask yourself this; did you even know that the State of Ohio “earns” a profit off of each and every “child support” payment that’s made in Ohio? If not, then why not?

Additionally, the reason I almost always put quotes around the words “child support” is because I do live in a reality where I recognize that a LOT of custodial parents are making a lot of money via “child support” off the backs of their own precious children and not spending even a dime of it on those same children whose very lives have been destroyed by it. That said, I refuse to call “child support” what it’s not-“support for the children.”

Sincerely,

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights
Email: tony.fantetti@ocffr.org

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Protecting and Provisioning for Children as the End of “The Age of America” Dawns

Despite having been aware of the possibility (for quite some time) of “The Age of America” coming to an end, I’m still somewhat surprised to see this being reported by the media. Additionally, and since I saved this post to a draft days ago, other stories foretelling the same, have come out as well.

I generally refrain from discussing politics (as both Republicans and Democrats with respect to their policy are both very anti-father); nonetheless, I felt that what’s discussed in the aforementioned link is worth discussing here.

First, and to you naysayers and those with their heads in the sand, I say “good luck, because I believe at this point that you’re really going to need it.” That aside, there’s a much bigger issue at stake that’s exponentially more important; that being, how will this affect the children of “fatherless” families. More specifically, families where the father has been kicked out of the children’s lives by their “single mom by choice”  mothers utilizing their strong-arm tactics otherwise known as the “Family Courts.”

It’s no secret that more and more people are living in RV parks, are homeless and even living in shanty towns similar to those erected during the Great Depression. So when the US economy crashes as a result of the US Dollar being replaced as the world’s reserve currency (some put this even five years out, but I believe we’ll possibly experience this in 2012 or 2013 at the latest), the fallout from said scenario will be very swift, and very ugly. In short I suspect that there will be complete pandemonium and to a lesser extent anarchy as a direct result. That, at least until the IMF steps in to “stabilize” the situation.

After that occurs, we’ll be left with rebuilding what once was, but perhaps to a lesser degree as a country as a whole. Said otherwise, I doubt (at least in my lifetime) that America will ever be again what it once was. Admittedly, I’m not an Economist, but I at one time was a very active (and quite successful) investor. To such an extent that if I still had the assets I once did, I’m certain that I would’ve made a considerable amount of money since this “recession” began and would thereby be looking forward to retirement, but on account of the reality of what’s described herein.

That said, it’s my humble opinion that after America’s credit rating is downgraded (our debt already has been) and the dollar loses its status as the world’s reserve currency, we’ll experience various degrees of anarchy that I believe will be driven in part by a lack of food and basic necessities. And that, is where the protection and provisioning of a father will surely be missed, and to a greater extent desired by the children of the so many mothers who in many cases and for self-serving and utterly selfish reasons only, unilaterally decided that “their” children would grow up without a loving father who’d otherwise have been actively (and with unfettered access) engaged in their lives.

In a sense, but not without true regret and a heartfelt regard for how terrible things may end up getting for the children involved, I suspect that many fathers would welcome such a scenario, albeit with a highly ambivalent sense of deliverance. One that’s driven by an insatiable desire for justice, and that for the many wrongs and injustices that for years have been committed against them by those “mothers” who while wielding their “Family Court” war-hammers, forcefully ejected said fathers out of their children’s lives.

To get more to my point, when and if there are gangs of unchallenged and out-of-control street-roving thugs who through threats and acts of violence take what’s not theirs, and when and if food is in short supply, who’ll be there to protect and provide for the children?

Is mom going to do it? This is not a question of desire, as I believe that 99.9% of moms would sacrifice their lives (as would dads) in a heartbeat for their children.  But rather, this is a question of “can” they protect and provide for their children as could a father in such a scenario? My answer to that question is a very emphatic “NO!”

Do I state such because I’m a misogynist? Absolutely not; I speak that for what it is, and despite what were told by the media and father-hating feminists. It’s so simply because it’s because of how God wired us as the polar opposites that we are, and it’s therefore and incontrovertible fact in my humble opinion.

Men/fathers by design can kill, protect and provide in ways that most women can’t and would find repulsive, and save for those ladies who’re the exceptions to that rule, most men discharge said duties more effectively and efficiently than do most women. Do I also recognize that women/moms contribute equally unique skills and abilities and discharge those attributes to much better degree than do men/fathers? Of course I do.

I saw a very interesting study within the last year that delved into how men and women respond to an immediate physical threat. I wish I had it to link to, but was only able to find what appeared to be the feminist driven crap that says they, “respond the same” or “women respond better.” That aside, said study looked at how men and women responded to a situation whereby there’s an immediate threat of physical harm.

I believe the study indicated that the female response geared more towards exiting the situation as quickly as possible and thereby escaping the threat, while the male response was to the contrary, and was geared towards him immediately assessing the situation to determine how fast he should neutralize the threat. Both of course are very reasonable and equally valid responses, albeit they’re obviously very different in nature. In such a scenario, I’d say that most men can successfully effect either response. However, most women could not, as they simply do not possess the required necessary physical attributes to neutralize a threat should the situation require that it be done through physical strength alone.

Taking that a step further, and I suspect that criminal convictions and present jail populations would confirm this; a man is more likely to discharge deadly force than is a woman. Be that his reasons were justified or not is moot, as the fact remains that a man will kill much quicker, more often and in various situations than will a woman. Don’t believe me without statistics to back that up? Then just ask any feminist or the head of any Domestic Violence organization as they’ll satiate you with how “evil, hateful and equally dangerous “all” men are.”

In closing, and if the end of “The Age of America” indeed comes upon us in the manner I’ve described herein. And if mass anarchy in fact comes to life whereby protection and provisioning will only come to those who are willing and able to physically seize it; then please tell me who, and with so many court-ordered absent fathers in this country, will be there to defend and provide for the children if indeed the dawn of the end of “The Age of America” cracks in utter anarchy?

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Received Via Email from an Ohio Mother in Defense of Her Incarcerated Son

Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:58:23 -0400 [04/21/2011 04:58:23 AM PDT]
From: Cathy Xxxxxx <XXXXXXXX@zoomtown.com>
To: tony.fantetti@ocffr.org
Subject: please help

Hi Tony,
I am writing to you for my son, he doesn’t know that I’m doing this but we
all need some help. First a little background:

My son went to prison for possession of cocaine, while in prison we found
out that he had a son by a woman he dated. He had to pay back child support
for quite a few months that he was in prison, while we’re not happy about
that portion, we do believe in paying support.

My grandson mother was pregnant with another child when we found out that we
had a grandson. My grandsons brother was in foster care due to the mothers
heroine addiction, neglect and abuse, when my grandson was born he also went
into foster care. My grandson was almost a year old when we found out that
he was our grandson. We started visiting with our grandson every chance we
could. A few months after finding out we had a grandson, children’s
protective service was ready to integrate him back into his mother’s home.
She informed me that she didn’t think she could care for a newborn and 2
young boys, we offered for him to come and live with us until she was ready.
We went to court and the court was informed that my grandson would be living
with us, we thought everything was fine. During the following 6 months the
mother would visit irregularly and when she did take him for a weekend, she
would bring him back with very bad diaper rash, once with bruises and
scratches on his upper arms (as if someone had grabbed both his arms). I
started talking with the foster parent and the great grandfather of his
older brother and heard horrendous stories. Eight months after my grandson
coming to live with us, his mother brought him home with diaper rash so bad
that he was bleeding. The anger I had cannot be described, I called her and
told her that she couldn’t see him any more, I know I shouldn’t have because
we did not have custody, I was angry and not thinking. I took him to the
hospital and it was confirmed that he had severe diaper rash, the mother
came to the hospital with police in tow and took my grandson. My son was
still in prison.

She took my grandson in August, my husband and I filed for visitation. We
were granted visitation in October 2007, we were able to visit on the 1st
and 3rd weekends of the month. My son was released from prison January 2008.
In the timeframe between August and October, the mother charged me with
stalking and tried to get a protection order against me, it was dismissed
because she didn’t show up for court.

Present day: My son has had to file for visitation. He didn’t file before
because he take our grandson for one overnight on the weekends that we had
him. I’m am in the process of a criminal charge, at first I was charged with
Child Endangerment because I disciplined my grandson while he was visiting
with us, the Child Endangerment charges were dismissed. I am now being
charged with Assault and have a protection order against me. The mother
tried in October 2010 to take away our visitation but it was denied, no
modifications were made to our visitation. She is now trying again to take
away our visitation. We paid the fee for our son to file for visitation, we
know that if he is granted visitation it will take away ours but we know
that he will let us visit with him. We also paid the fee to get our
grandsons surname changed to that of his fathers. He had to get the case
continued to get a lawyer because even though my son was willing to have a
hyphenated surname with his name, then her maiden name, she would not agree
to that. She wants it to be her married surname and then my sons surname, of
course he doesn’t want that.

Even though our visitation is still in effect and I have stated that I will
not be present, the mother has refused my husband picking our grandson up
for visitation. We have filed contempt charges per the court judges advice.
She is stating all kinds of false allegations and is stating that our
grandson is terrified to come to our house, that my son is not his father,
that he is just the sperm donor, etc.

My son is currently unemployed and we cannot keep paying his lawyer fees
along with ours and he really needs legal help. Is there someone you can
recommend that will act for him in the Name Change case that will do this
pro bono??

We live in Ohio, my grandson is 5 years old now, they were never married. I
don’t know what other information you need in order to help us but am
willing to provide any that you need.

Thank you,

Cathy
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Cathy,

I’m sorry to say once again that I’ve been unsuccessful in my efforts (for reasons described in part in the previous post) to locate any pro bono attorneys. There are those who are lucky enough to find one, but I suspect that they’re few and far between.

That said, and given the mother of your grandson’s propensity to to stir legal trouble up by making allegations against you, if I were in your position, I’d keep a digital recorder with me at all times when I’m dealing with her. And that applies to recording telephone conversations with her in accordance with State law.

As far as the name change issue, I believe she’ll have to go through Probate Court for that as she (to my knowledge) just can’t change your grandson’s name from what’s on his birth certificate. If you were told otherwise by an attorney, please advise.

Rest assured that your grandson’s mother will not change in her behavior, and I mean that in more ways than one. More specifically, and given she was addicted to heroine, I believe her chances of a relapse are strong.

Once an addict always an addict (absent certain faith in my humble opinion), but the decision to stay clean can be forever, if it’s made one day at a time. What I’m driving at is twofold; the first being, help and encourage (without criticism but using “tough love”) your son to stay sober if he is not.

If you get word that his ex is using again, an anonymous complaint can be made against her with “‘Child Protective’ Services”(CPS). However, be aware that if in fact they find her to be using and they once again take your grandson into State Custody, your son needs to be prepared to file a motion for Change of Custody either by obtaining counsel (which it sounds like none of you can afford) or doing so pro se. Especially if she’s in jail. Reason being, CPS most likely will not make any attempt to place your grandson in your son’s custody should the aforementioned occur. This is because CPS is as anti-father as are the courts, but they too, and just like the CSEAs realize that there’s a financial profit to be “earned” by separating fathers from their children.

That’s due in part to the fact that the State of Ohio also financially profits by breaking up families and placing children in foster care. They in turn can force the biological parents (but usually the father) to pay “child support” to the State, in order to reimburse it for the monies they pay to the foster parents. Additionally, the State of Ohio profits off of those “child support” payments that are made.

Said corruption runs deep within the State of Ohio and partially explains how that precious child Marcus Fiesel was placed into the “care of” and subsequently murdered by such heinous monsters that were said to be his “foster parents.” Please know that such is not directed at the many good and loving foster parents out there.

Why not wait until she motions the proper court for the name change and involve yourself with that matter (and retain counsel then assuming you have the funds) instead of initiating an action on your own?

If at some point down the road your grandson is once again taken into State Custody and the State is refusing to place him in your son’s custody assuming he is in fact clean, please contact me.

Finally, instead of paying an attorney to have her held in contempt (whereby she’ll likely be found not guilty or slapped on the wrist at best) why not divert those funds to fighting her against the name change?

Sincerely,

Tony

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Received Via Email from a Hamilton County Father

Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 18:17:03 -0400 [03:17:03 PM PDT]
From: Txxxx Xxxxxxx <xxxxxx@gmail.com>
To: ‘Tony Fantetti’ <tony.fantetti@ocffr.org>
Subject: RE: Ohio Council for Fathers Rights website

Hi Tony,

Thanks for providing this informative site, organization, and your blog.I’m researching a possible appeal for a custody trial in Hamilton County that seemed mine to lose. xxxxxx xxxx xxxxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxx xxxxx, however I received a phone call this afternoon from my oldest son (xx) who was in tears and inconsolable, as his mother told him he and his brother and sister would be staying with her, and they would be seeing much less of me.

Of course, xxxx xxx xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx xxxx, but if what my son told me is accurate, I am shocked. I had lies thrown at me during and before trial, unproven accusations of relations with a minor leveled at me by the mother and a neighbor of her’s (who’s sexual advances I rebuffed, hence her lies and accusations), and backed by no proof whatsoever other than allegation and misinterpreted email.

Meanwhile, the custody investigation came down strongly in my favor saying we should form a shared parenting plan; the kids should spend the majority of the time with me, and attend the local public school in my neighborhood. She accused me of doing drugs and she, herself was found to have drugs in her drug screen (and even admitted to the custody investigator she had done them – I tested clean), and had attempted to bring a strange man into the home one morning at 8am immediately after I dropped my daughter off, both very intoxicated and bringing in more alcohol – and a photograph of her attempting to bring the man into the home was presented as evidence.

Again, xxxx xxxxx xxxx xxx the mother was requesting
full custody, and I presented a shared parenting plan that reflected the suggestions of the court appointed custody investigator. What worries me is that my son told me ‘mom said we would be staying with her and won’t see you as much’…  I wonder, if what my son says is accurate, is this typical behavior of ‘family court’ judges to apparently disregard the recommendations of their very own court employees?  I’m sure the fact that the ex is an ‘artist’ and makes very little money has a great deal to do with a ruling that will keep me and my money wrapped up in the child support
system.

The magistrate (Newberry) we have seems to be fair – even lowering my initial support payments that were set far too high by a temporary magistrate when this all began. However, I certainly have my doubts about the ability of the judge to make a reasonable decision, again, if what my son says is accurate. The judge is brand-new to the bench (having been a magistrate prior to January), and the judge was switched mid-stream (from Panioto, who retired, to Sieve).

Depending on xxxxx xxxx   xxxxxxx, I may decide to appeal. My son is distraught at the thought of having to live with his mom – he and I are far too alike, and we both fear she will take out her animosity on him in the future.  And if I do appeal, I’m afraid I can no longer afford my attorney. I felt he made a good case for me, but I can’t afford to spend more money on
him if he is not thoroughly invested in my dilemma, which I suspect he may not be. I noticed in another post you referenced a list of ‘retain or refrain’ attorneys, but I could not find it on your site, other than one ‘refrain’. Also, any information on anyone willing to help me file my appeal inexpensively would be greatly appreciated. The ex had full control over our
finances, and did a spectacular job of ruining our credit, both jointly and my own personal credit, which I didn’t have an opportunity to rebuild, as I mentioned, she had full control over our finances.

I have been funding the divorce proceedings by borrowing money from my parents, who are on a fixed income, and can’t do so any longer. I myself am living in the good graces of my parents who are allowing me to stay in their old house so I am not destitute. At the end of my two-week pay cycle, I’m down to about $15 bucks, if I’m lucky.

Any additional money I have goes toward keeping groceries in
the house for the kids when they’re here, and buying them second-hand clothing from the thrift store, as she refuses to let them bring clothes (bought with money I earned when I lived there) to my home.

This sickens me, as I have always been very close to my children. I cooked dinner for the family virtually every night after work, when she sat on her rear and made ‘art’ which is too overpriced to sell in this economy. I put them to bed every night, took them to the park, the zoo, taught my boys to
ride their bikes, and took them to scouts and campouts.

She never attended any of those things. xxx xxxx xxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx. You know what he asked the boys? He asked what they thought of March madness basketball. Never once asked them where they wanted to stay, where they wanted to go to school, whose home provides them more (they have their own rooms where I live now). He didn’t bother to ask
them who took them to their sports practices and games, or to scouts, or to sleepovers with friends. If he had, it would have exposed her lies about how she ‘did it all’. She didn’t – I don’t begrudge what she has done for them, but she lied on the stand (and had others do so too) and said I was never there for my kids. I have always been there for my kids – always.

Yes, I strayed from her in our marriage, but not in the way she accused me of, and I was always there for my children. But she wishes to use my love for my kids as a weapon against me.

I definitely feel there was bias on behalf of the judge, as in researching him, he is a catholic school grad. There’s nothing wrong with that, except for the fact that catholic school vs. public school is a major issue in this case, and the fact that we could never afford catholic school. Oh – did I mention she is on food stamps because she refuses to get a real job?

Well, sorry for my rant. Thanks for any information you can provide, and for the resources you’ve already provided here on your site. I wish I had found it months ago…

Regards,

Txxxxx

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“T”,

Thanks for taking the time to email me your story. Sadly, it’s replete with “more of the same” and another good example of why the mother in approximately 83% of cases nationwide, is awarded sole custody of the children.

I personally had Panioto as a judge and although in some respects felt he truly wanted to do the right thing, I’m convinced he had either dementia, the beginnings of Alzheimer’s, or was on a medication that adversely impacted his ability to sufficiently preside over trials, and therefore was incapable of properly discharging his duties.

Quite frankly, I was going to out him to the media for the terrible injustices he committed against my daughter in my most recent custody trial. And that, by completely disregarding her testimony and while knowing that she was coached (but not by me) and for routinely falling asleep on the bench during said trial. Those were the good parts. I will for now withhold the truly horrendous things he did as they truly continue to endanger my daughter’s life in a very real sense.

It was funny how the opposing counsel’s cross-examination of what I did in this organization was allowed as my attorney’s objection on the grounds of relevance was “overruled.” However, very pertinent testimony under cross on my daughter’s mothers part (and that was to my benefit) was silenced as her attorney’s objection on the grounds of relevance was sustained. Truth be told, I may day write a book and describe (in considerable detail) what happened then.

That said, how does it apply to your case? Well, I too now have Sieve presiding over my case, and if Panioto was bad, Sieve will be ten times worse and here’s why; I’m told (and ASSUMING it’s true, so in defense of him, I must point out that I’ve not verified this personally) that he did nothing but hear “Domestic Violence” cases in Domestic Relations whereby he rubber-stamped Protection Orders. Assuming that’s indeed a fact, there’s zero hope for any fathers in his court. Reason being, his attitude will be “All mothers are truthful and good, all fathers are liars and bad.”

As far as appealing the decision, don’t waste your money. The appellate judges in the decisions I’ve read have specifically stated that they “will not substitute their interpretation of the “best interests of the children” for that of the trial court. Said otherwise, the appellate courts feel that such a determination can only best be made by the trial court judges/magistrates as they are intimate with the details of the case. I even went so far as to get my own attorney’s opinion and he says it’s “extremely difficult” to have a custody ruling overturned.

However, he did say that he’s successfully had some custody decisions successfully overturned on appeals based on technicalities. Based on what you told me in a follow-up email, perhaps you might have a chance at being successful. His contact information can be found here if you wish to run it by him. I can tell you that between attorney’s fees, filing fees and transcripts, an appeal would probably cost you about $5,000 more.

I truly wish I knew of some attorneys who would be willing to work on a pro bono basis, but knowing how many indigent fathers are out there (and how many make requests of me alone) I think many attorneys would themselves be indigent if they took on pro bono cases. I’m sorry I don’t have anything better to offer on that front. I suspect that if I were at least a 501c, I’d stand a better chance of locating some attorneys who’d work on a pro bono basis on occasion.

You asked if it’s normal for a Court to ignore its own Custody Investigator’s (CI) recommendation, and I say, “absolutely.” There’s not a CI in Ohio that in my opinion can overcome the anti-father bias and prejudice that many judges have.

Although, there was a father in Butler County Ohio who not surprisingly was involved  in a very heated contested custody trial. A court appointed Psychologist interviewed both father and mother as well as all of the kids involved. He found (and wrote in his report) in part that, “the mother was psychologically unfit to parent the children, was attempting to alienate the children from the father, she was psychologically damaging to the children, and she was abusing drugs.” I personally read through the case documents myself.

Now, given the terrible circumstances involved in that case, you can probably take one guess at who got awarded “full-custody” of the children involved and be right. And if your guess was “the father”, you’re dead wrong. The “mother” was awarded sole custody.

I personally only know of one Hamilton County father with sole custody (that’s not to say there aren’t more) and I believe the only reason he was awarded custody was because the mother was an absent drug addict. And when the father filed repeated motions to have her held in contempt for not paying child support guess what happened? Judge Tolbert (Administrative Judge) threatened to throw HIM in jail, and numerous times!

This is what we as fathers are up against. A father emailed me a few months back complaining that his attorney “sold him down river” and “tricked him” into accepting a shared-parenting (aka joint custody) agreement. I was floored, and really need to post that one to the blog, minus his identifiable information of course.

T, you felt a bias was there with the judge, because it was there. For those of you out there reading this, if you know of any father-friendly judges, please contact me.

The stories of mothers lying on the stand and leveling false accusations of physically/sexual abuse is all to common and rarely punished by the courts when it’s discovered. And that, despite perjury being a felony that’s punishable by up to five years in prison.

The reason I believe that Judge Sieve didn’t ask your sons any pertinent questions and instead relied on questions such as their fondness of March Madness is because he couldn’t care less as his mind was made up. She was getting full custody and you were/are paying “child support.”

Additionally, he doesn’t care that she doesn’t work and collects welfare because “that’s her choice.” If a father as the obligor of a “child support” order makes the same choice, he goes to jail, no questions asked.

When I at one time was arguing pro se in front of Judge Panitio  regarding Objections to the Magistrate’s Decision I filed in response to a motion to reduce (“child support”) that was denied, I argued that I was bankrupted and couldn’t afford it, and it was true. You know what he said to me as he peered down at me from his high perch on the bench? “You’re wife (referring to my present wife) needs to go out and get a better job (she was an EMT at the time) so you can pay more “child support.”

I blew a gasket at that point. He and I already didn’t “click” because we’re both Italian, but after he uttered that filth, I unleashed a verbal tirade at him whereby I said in part, “I don’t care if you are a Judge, you WILL NOT talk about my wife in the manner that you are, and you can hold me in contempt and throw me in jail for all I care, because you’re out of line.” Surprisingly enough, he apologized.

I truly know how you feel right now. After my last custody trial whereby my legal fees have approached nearly $30,000 (that could have funded my daughter’s college education) since this all began, I felt like I’d been kicked in the stomach by a mule after that ruling. Reason being, all indications were that Panioto was going to rule in my favor, but he literally forgot how he intended to rule as he’d delayed issuing his final ruling until the end of Summer 2009.

I can still very clearly see that oblivious (and stupid) look on his face after he finished fumbling through all the trial notes and papers he had on the bench that pertained to my case and then looked up (and down at us) and asked out of utter bewilderment, “why are we even here”, I wanted to cry after my heart started beating again.

That said, let it go T. There’s no sense in replaying any of it in your head and playing the “what-if” game. Reason being, and truth be told, a father could have a video tape of a his ex attempting to murder his children, and I believe there are judges out there who would make excuses for her behavior and thereby grant such a mother sole custody in some cases. And as sad as it is, I’m not being facetious.

In closing, what I find most repulsive about this madness is how those feckless, wooden and perfunctory Ohio “Family Court” judges, and without any consideration for the “best interests of the children” whatsoever, will gleefully, proudly, and in some cases knowingly place the children into the sole custody of a “mother” who’ll out of her insatiable appetite for vengeance and spite will do nothing but use the children to punish the father.

Rest assured that just as the sun rises and sets each and every day, and so long as the father never bad-mouths the mother in front of the children (an act that is always inappropriate and wrong) the children will grow up and one day hate her.

As I’ve said before, mothers who are hell-bent on effecting their vengeance out of nothing more than their seething hatred for the men they chose to lie down with and create children, need to learn to love their children more than they hate the fathers thereof before they can even comprehend and thereby effect the “best interests” of those very children that they claim to love.

Sincerely,

Tony

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My Reasons for Founding Ohio Council for Fathers Rights

After my horrific introduction to Ohio’s “‘Child Support’ Extortion Agency” (CSEA) and Ohio’s Domestic Relations (aka “Family”) Court system, the kaleidoscope through which I viewed life was forever altered, and in a totally unchangeable way.

In truth, it’s extremely difficult for me to describe. My life at that point simply became surreal. As a person I existed, but as only a shell of what I once was. My ‘life’ was monotonous and very mundane, and I had only one goal each day as I dreadfully rolled out of bed, or wherever I found myself sleeping; put one foot before the other.

The reality and “awakening” of being dragged into the nightmare of playing the part of an unwilling actor in the double-featured horror show, otherwise known as Ohio’s “Child Support” Enforcement Agency and Ohio’s Domestic and Juvenile Relations (aka “Family”) Court system, can only be best described by me as told in the forthcoming.

You’ve lived your life as it were for 20, 30, 40 or so years. During that time, you’ve acquired and formed your morals, norms and mores, and developed your own healthy concept of what life is both in your own personal sense, as well as that of being a United States citizen who “has Constitutional rights.” Rights that can in no way be abridged or infringed upon, as you and society as a whole agree that they are both God-given and inalienable. Or so you thought; then comes the day  you’re served with a civil action and thereby are introduced to Ohio’s CSEA and in many cases “Family Court,” as the insanity only just begins.

If you were “fortunate” enough to have retained counsel, your initial shock is somewhat minimized. But only in a minuscule way, and just because someone else can speak for you so you therefore don’t have to. That, as you’re slumped in your chair in some legal meeting or court hearing, and while merely existing at that point in a quasi-conscious state whereby you ponder ever so deeply how it is that your view of reality itself could have been so utterly faltered and delusional as it was…and is. “My God!!!” only begins to describe your profound shock and your equally extensive unbelief and trepidation.

I can think of no greater shock or disillusionment than that exact moment at which you realize that the statement, “I’m an American, this can’t happen to me” has absolutely no meaning. And that to such an extent that not only does it ring hollow, said statement is sadly quite comical within the “Family Court” theater.

However, that makes perfect sense when one grasps the finality of the statement, “the ‘best interest’ of the child trumps all.” In short, you’ve just been introduced to a parallel universe that in most cases only comes to life and thereby into existence at a specific and very precise point in time; the birth of your first (and absolutely precious) child.

Although said universe comes into existence at that very moment and ever so closely parallels your existing life, it never collides with your sense of reality until in the case of fathers, the mother of your child determines that she know longer wants you not only in her life, but most importantly, in your child’s life.

However, said parallelism exists as such, and the worlds so close, that the line of separation defining both is as close as bone is to marrow and therefore unseen. Moreover, it is never, nor can it be, breached until said collision occurs. And that very destructive collision is always only one thought away. It’s at that very moment, when she unilaterally decides that “you’re out”, and although unknown to you at the time, the said parallel universe replaces your aforementioned sense of reality, and in a very emotionally violent manner.

And the incredibly turbulent, life-altering and increasingly destructive impact of those two worlds colliding will be felt by you for the first time, when you realize either via your attorney, or the Court or CESA through an order, that you’ll lose EVERYTHING you’ve spent a lifetime building. But most importantly, you’ll lose unfettered access to your children, as well as your God-given right to parent them.

Now, the court and the mother of your child will decide if, when and how you’ll see or talk to your children. And that, and for those who don’t know, is so the State of Ohio and her 88 County “Child Support” Enforcement Agencies can “financially profit” on the seemingly never ending destruction that will rain down upon you and yours lives for the next 18 to 25 or more years, as you’re subjugated and enslaved to a financially unbearable “child-support” order that by its very design, may put you behind bars for many years to come.

The absolute worst, most important, and heart-wrenching part of what I’ve described herein is this; all of that life-altering and utterly horrendous destruction that’s experienced by the father will also be experienced and felt ( but in a magnitude that’s exponential in nature) by the innocent and precious children involved. Those very children whom the State of Ohio, the Courts, and Ohio’s CSEAs claim to be only acting ‘in the best interests of’, and who have absolutely no say in the matter, and didn’t ask that their world be turned upside-down in the very hateful and self-centered manner whereby just that will be done.

And for what purpose is such ugly decimation and destruction heaped upon not only you, but more importantly your children? Simply because you made a choice to become a father. And it’s for that reason, coupled with the fact that I too grew up without a father, that I have this inexplicable compulsion to expose the unconscionable double-featured horror show that’s euphemistically known as Ohio’s “Family Court”system and it’s increasing punitive financial arm known as the Ohio “Child Support” Enforcement Agency (CSEA).

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights
Email: tony.fantetti@ocffr.org

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Another Warren County Father Commits Suicide

Recently, a noncustodial father who was being harassed by the Warren County Ohio “Child Support” Enforcement Agency (CSEA) and who hadn’t seen his children in years, committed suicide.

Given that he only recently sought help for his accompanying mental illness, his case file wasn’t replete with the specifics surrounding his harassment at the hands of the Warren County CSEA nor just how troubled he was by not being able to see his children.

Nonetheless, I can assure you that the harassment he received from the Warren County CSEA and his inability to see his children (that will tear any loving mom or dad down to “nothing”) absolutely and without a doubt contributed to his decision to take his own life.

But how you ask, can I make such a claim without ever having such confirmed by him? “Easily and confidently” is my reply. I’ve “been down that road” after having been subjugated, humiliated, bankrupted and abused by the Hamilton County “Child Support” Enforcement (aka Extortion) agency as well as the Hamilton County Domestic Relations Court.

Trust me when I say that my current wife did not for years believe the horrific stories I told her about the Hamilton County CSEA nor the Hamilton County Domestic Relations Court. She had at one time admitted that she thought I was “exaggerating” when I’d explain the torment I’d endure at the hands of both.

I was “driven to the edge” to such an extent by both, that I met with a National Guard Recruiter and despite my Engineering Degree and my career at that time being IT, I was going to enlist in an Infantry position.

I told my recruiter that he would have to put in writing that the Army would guarantee me an Infantry position that upon my completion of basic training,  would ensure that I’d be shipped to Iraq and patrolling the streets of Baghdad.

When the shooting started, I wasn’t ducking; and if I was going to “go out,” at least it would be in a dignified manner, and while taking as many terrorists as I could with me. My daughter would then would grow up thinking and believing that her father died a war hero.

The night before I was to drive with the recruiter to “sign the papers” in Columbus OH, I called him and told him, “I’m sorry, but I’ve changed my mind. There’s a five year old girl who needs her daddy.” “I understand,” he said. And I never heard from him again.

Anyone who knows anything about recruiters knows this; they NEVER give up. This one did because he knew; he knew something was wrong, and he knew that an Infantry position wasn’t the best match for me, so he therefore kept trying to get me to accept an engineering type job. I’m not sure why, and given that he was a recruiter, but I truly felt that he didn’t want any part in what neither of us never openly acknowledged nor discussed, but we both knew; that I was looking for a one-way ticket.

I wanted to meet my maker (and for the first time in my life) because the Hamilton County CSEA along with Ohio’s “Family Court” (aka Hamilton County Domestic Relations Court) nearly destroyed me emotionally through their HORRIFIC abuse that they continually  inflicted upon me.

I (and more importantly my daughter Maria) were fortunate as I “came out the other side.” It’s because I did, that I decided to start Ohio Council for Fathers Rights and began helping others. Especially those caught in the dual snare of the CSEAs and “Family Court” who as a direct result of such, were contemplating taking their own precious lives.

Knowing first hand the extent of the unconscionable and unspeakable albeit very purposeful damage (emotional, financial, mental and otherwise) those two evil entities gleefully and proudly inflict upon noncustodial mothers, noncustodial fathers and the children thereof; I am inexplicably and overwhelmingly compelled to expose the “why” behind the unspeakable carnage they leave behind in their quest. A quest that is solely and wholly driven by  a sum of money known as a “profit.”

A profit that Ohio’s CSEAs “earn” at the expense of Ohio’s innocent and precious children by extorting Ohio’s noncustodial parents through a governmental and a court-sanctioned theft known as a “payroll deduction” that’s euphemistically referred to as “child support.”

The State of Ohio, through Title IV Part D of the Social Security Act, is actually paid a “profit” by us, the taxpayer (through the Social Security payroll taxes that we pay) every time a noncustodial parent is forced to pay “child support.”

That’s the very reason why Ohio’s CSEAs (and Ohio’s Statutes) state that all “child support” payments (even 18 years worth and with canceled checks proving them) made directly from the noncustodial parent (aka “child support” paying-the father in 83% of cases nationwide)  to the custodial parent are considered “gifts;” because the CSEA cannot take “their cut” (or profit) if the monies weren’t paid through (extorted by) their agency.

So don’t kid yourself, they don’t step in to “help mom;” they couldn’t care less about mom or the children involved. They step in and play “middle-man” because that’s the ONLY way they can “profit” off of a “child support” payment.

And it’s the absolutely hateful, contemptuous, punitive, unjust and abusive manner in which they collect their profit, that some fathers ultimately decide to kill themselves as a ‘way out’ after they determine they can no longer be subjugated , humiliated and abused by Ohio’s CSEAs.

I know that, because I personally have “been to the edge,” and was driven there by Ohio’s CSEA whose anti-father war hammer was and is Ohio’s “Family” Courts.

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights

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Received Via Email: Currently a Victim of CSEA

Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 19:42:25 -0700 [04/04/2011 07:42:25 PM PDT]
From: Axxxxxxxx@xxxxx.com
To: tony.fantetti@ocffr.org
Subject: Currently a Victim of CSEA

Hello Tony

I am desperate and trying to find help, advice or anything in regards to my Child Support Issue. I have a 2 yr old son name xxxx and currently pay child support through the Trumbull County CSEA. I am also currently in a court battle for joint custody. My son was born out of wedlock. The child support order originally started in xxxxx xxxx. The original amount was $289.68 and I provided full health insurance. I now live in xxxxxx. In August 2010 I hired legal representation and started fighting for joint custody. In October 2010  a re audit was completed after my son’s mother got a job. Prior to this the original judgment was based off my income of $21,000. Her income was “0″. I never recieved any documentation in the mail nor was I informed by phone in regards to the new calculated amount of child support. I did not find out the new support amount until my December hearing. The agency increased the amount to around $830.00 based off incorrect numbers
to this day they can not give me an answer of where they got the numbers from. They did not include my health insurance in the calculation and my son’s mother claimed that daycare cost $9,000 a year which i now know is false. Up to this point I never missed a single child support payment. I have an attorney that seems like he can care less about my case plus I made a horrible mistake in choosing my attorney who is the xxxxxx xxxx xxxxxxxx xxxxxx xxxx xxxx. As of now my trial date is set for xxxxxxxxx but today I received an invoice from the CSEA calming i owe over $5,000 in support. Over $2,400 compared to what i was told by a supervisor less then a month ago.

I am begging for you help or to please point me in the right direction.
Thank You

Axxxxxx xxxxxxx
xxx-xxx-xxxx

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“A”,

I’ll be contacting you via email regarding your current attorney as I may decide to add him to my “Attorneys; Retain or Refrain” category. Additionally, his obvious lack of interest in vigorously representing you may have more to do with him “living off his name” instead of him actually working for a living.

That aside, there’s absolutely NO REASON he can’t address the issues you’ve mentioned via motion. A first year law student should (via discovery, interrogatories, deposition and finally cross examination) be capable of handily demonstrating the fraud behind the mother’s claim of “$9,000 in daycare expenses.”

Where are the receipts, invoices etc? If there is no evidence of such in court, your attorney (especially given his credentials) should be able to easily expose and dispatch that fraud. I traveled down that road for many years, hence the reason for some of my current overpayment.

It’s imperative that your “clownsel” (that seems, as I’m sure you would agree based on what you said, more fitting than “counsel”) motion the court for a CSEA audit, a motion to modify, and ask for a credit for all of the additional “child support” that you paid for the unproven “daycare expenses” that I suspect are the reason your “child support” obligation was raised from $289.68 to ~$830.00 per month.

My own “child support” obligation was raised nearly $600 per month to pay for “daycare expenses” that were never proven in court. No receipts were shown, the claim was merely made, and my “child support” obligation was raised, period, end of story.

Another thing; you should have received a credit for the health insurance you provide (the Trumbull County CSEA earns a profit off of medical support orders as well) towards your monthly “child support” obligation in the amount you pay for health insurance. Another thing you should ask for is a deviation for extraordinary travel expenses.

I at one time lived about 550 miles from my daughter (and still live a considerable distance) and was granted a downward deviation in my obligation as I was (and still do) traveling about 2200 miles per month to “visit” my daughter.

It’s a well-known and often used tactic by child support moms (CSMs) to claim phantom daycare expenses with the sole purpose of having your “child support” raised so they can in turn use those additional “child support” monies you pay for their own benefit.

As far as the CSEA not contacting you, you are required under Ohio Law to notify them of your new address, did you do that?

You can request an audit from the CSEA as you’re entitled to that. However, I’d tell your “clownsel” to motion the court for an audit as well, as the CSEAs are not very responsive to their “clients” whom are fathers.

Moreover, any correspondence you send to the CSEA should be sent by certified mail. Otherwise (and trust me on this one as I hear it from fathers all over Ohio) the Trumbull CSEA will claim they “never received” your request. Anything I send to the CSEA is sent by certified mail, or through my attorney. I will also generally record my conversations with them as well.

Lastly, how much is your “net” take home pay each week after the Trumbull County “Child Support” Agency extorts your “child support” obligation from your paycheck? Under Federal Law, they can’t seize more than 50% of your “net”weekly pay unless you have an arrears, in which case they can seize up to 65% of your “net” weekly pay. If that means you’re only left with $25 per week (net pay) to support yourself, or you end up homeless as a result, rest assured that there’s not one person in the Trumbull County CSEA who cares. In fact, they couldn’t care less.

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights

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How to Avoid Having your Assets Wrongfully Siezed by Ohio’s CSEA

Update April 6, 2011 23:00: I happened upon the following shortly after posting the blog entry below. I know from experience that just because a “Child Support” Extortion Agency labels someone a “deadbeat dad” and alleges he owes “X amount of dollars in arrears”, that doesn’t make it so. That said,  this story is worth reading as it only confirms what I’ve said below.

Additionally, notice in the story how the Arizona “Child Support” Enforcement representative (Veronica Ragland) makes the “false” claim,

“And his two children, who are now adults, should see some of that money.”

Really Ms. Ragland? Is that so? And on what basis do you make such a claim, did the mother who’ll receive that cash tell you so? Or, are you flat out lying as many CSEA employees do? Studies show that only about 30-35% of “child support” payments are spent on the children of the order. The rest of the money is spent by the custodial parent to support “their” lifestyle. Additionally, that 30-35% is considered to be a generous amount. The real amount is thought to be lower.

Finally, notice what else Ms. Ragland is quoted as saying in the article,

“”If there’s a child support obligation, we go after it,” said Veronica Ragland of the Arizona Department of Economic Security’s Child Support Enforcement. She said they will take everything from a person’s retirement account to inheritances.”

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I’ve thought long and hard about whether or not to post information such as this for numerous reasons, one of which is that it could possibly assist those who have legitimate arrears that should in fact be paid. And that is NOT my intent, nor the purpose of this organization.

However, there are countless fathers like myself who’ve wrongfully had assets seized (such as my current wife’s tax return) and thereby effectively stolen from them via the CSEA’s thievery, so as to satisfy an illegitimate “child support” arrears that never existed. It’s for those people, who DON’T have a legitimate arrears, that I am providing this information.

I’ve spoken to fathers who’ve had thousands (in one case $24,000) debited from their checking and or savings accounts by Ohio’s “Child Support” Extortion Agency (CSEA). Keep in mind that in situations where a mistake is made, a father just can’t get his money back.

The CSEA plays the role of a thief, also known as the “man-in-the-middle” whereby they steal the obligor’s income (the father in 83% of cases nationwide) through a theft known as a payroll transaction, take “their cut,” then turn the money over to the obligee which is the mother in most cases.

So when mom spends the money (studies show most of it is spent on her and NOT the children involved in the order) it’s gone, period. That said, if a mistake has been made, or on the off chance the CSEA admits to an error or it’s ordered by the court that the monies should be refunded to the father what do you think happens?

I for one can testify that it takes YEARS for a father to get that money back, there are no fees refunded to him, no interests, and if there’s a change of custody (whereby the father is named the custodial parent and no longer pays child support) or the mother passes, he may never see that money.

I’m nearly $7,500 “overpaid” in my “child support” obligation. Monies were taken from me that never should have been. The  court was motioned for my monthly “child support” to cease until the arrears was at zero, but the court didn’t rule in such a manner. It ruled that my monthly “child support” obligation should be lowered a paltry $100 per month. At that rate, I won’t have my own money given back to me for more than 6 years. I won’t get interest, nor will the CSEA’s fees (the money they charged me to take my money) be refunded to me.

Should I be awarded custody in the mean time, I’ll never see that money again.  Additionally, Moria Weir of the Hamilton County CSEA was ordered two months ago by a Hamilton County Judge to reduce my monthly obligation by $100 as explained. She continues to refuse to do so.

However, Ms. Weir willfully refuses to comply with said order and is now in contempt of court. It’s for that reason (Ms. Weir’s direct contempt) coupled with a recent email I just received that I’ve decided to post this information.

A father just informed me that his savings account was cleaned out by one of Ohio’s CSEAs for an arrears that he too “didn’t” have. His option? Pay an attorney between $2,500 and $5,000 to file a motion to get his own money back. That is court and government-sanctioned theft, period.

Therefore, I’d like to dedicate this post to Moria Weir, Director, Hamilton County Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services “Child Support” Enforcement Agency (CSEA) as my “Thank You” for her direct contempt whereby she refuses to return thousands of dollars that are rightfully mine, and my daughter’s.

You know who my daughter is, right Ms. Weir? She’s the child that your agency claims to only act in the best interests of. That said, please tell me how it’s in her best interests that you refuse to return my money as you were ordered to by the court?

There are many things my daughter needs, and that I’d like to buy, but I can’t do so because you refuse to return the monies owed to my daughter’s father-me. Again I ask Ms. Weir, how is that in her “best interest?”

It’s certainly not in my “best interest,” not that you care, after all you’re in contempt as it relates to my case. From what I can ascertain Ms. Weir, it’s mainly in your agency’s best financial interest not to return my money, because that’s less money you’ll “profit” on if you comply with the court’s order right? To elaborate, your “poundage fee” will be reduced if you lower my monthly “child support” obligation as you were ordered to by the court correct?

As a matter of fact Ms. Weir, isn’t it true that the longer you drag out the lowering of my “child support” obligation, and the longer you defy that Hamilton County Judge by choosing to remain in contempt, the more profits you can bring to your agency as well as the state of Ohio?

Back to addressing what I’ve titled in this post; if you only have a court ordered “child support” order against you, but especially if the CSEA  falsely alleges that you are in arrears, then I personally would do the following if it were me in your position:

1. I would own no property whatsoever that’s subject to liens. Property such as cars, houses, boats, RVs, jet skis, motorcycles, and anything that has a title to it. Reason being, Ohio’s CSEAs will place unjust liens on such property. I know this, because it was done to me by the Hamilton County CSEA. Said properties are better off titled to someone you trust, assuming they’re willing to assume the inherent risk from doing so.

2. Have no savings, checking, CDs, or investment accounts with your social security number on the account. The CSEAs search bank account records by Social Security number. So if your SS number shows up on one of the aforementioned accounts, the CSEA will clean the account out. And, it DOESN’T matter if it’s a joint account with your girlfriend, fiance, mom, dad, sister, wife etc etc. If your social appears on the account the CSEA will seize all monies in the account and tell the joint account owner (whomever that may be, wife, child etc) “prove” we took your money and not his, and they’ll keep it if you’re unsuccessful in your efforts to prove whose money it was.

Grant it, if you fight with them long and hard enough, you can get the other person’s money back in some cases if you can indeed ”prove it was theirs.” But don’t for one moment think that that the ‘Child Support’ Extortion Agency won’t fight you, your wife, girlfriend (or whomever the other person was) tooth and nail in their slimy efforts to keep that money. As far as they’re concerned, the person sharing the account with you is just as guilty as you, and despite you being innocent of the arrears they accuse you of having.

3. Avoid at all costs if you can, getting an income tax refund. If the CSEA alleges you have an illegitimate arrears, they’ll seize your “joint” or individually filed tax return. Once again, they’ll tell your wife “prove that was your money” and keep it. Keep in mind that you DO NOT want to break any laws when your claim your deductions for dependents; however, the more dependents you claim, the less income tax that’ll be deducted from your paycheck. If you claim too many dependents, you could end up owing money. Therefore, it’s best to seek the advice of a professional tax adviser before making any tax related changes such as these.

4. If you play the lottery, receive an inheritance, or receive a large settlement from a lawsuit or any type of settlement, the word is “mum.” Perhaps someone you trust could handle such affairs in confidence. Also be very careful about where you put that money. If you cash your own lottery ticket, you’ll be required to provide your social security number if it’s a substantial amount of money, and your social security number will be run through a “child-support” database.  If Ohio’s CSEA discovers those funds and alleges you have an illegitimate arrears, they’ll seize the money. Assuming you do have a legitimate arrears, don’t count on the CSEA to seize the proper amount of money, they’ll seize whatever they choose, and I’m “not” being sarcastic or facetious in saying that. So think hard about how you collect your winnings.

If you inherit a large sum of money, seek the advice of a competent attorney and be certain to advise them that the CSEA is falsely alleging you have a “child support” arrears. If that money shows up in any accounts with your social security number on it, consider it gone, and it’ll be taken without warning!

5. If you suddenly find yourself with a large amount of money (which I truly hope is only acquired via legal means); again, the word is “mum.” The fewer people that know, the better. Rest assured that as sure as the sun rises, if you run your mouth about it, it’ll find it’s way back to the CSEA. They’ll label it “income” and raise your ‘child support’ obligation by unconscionably and financially unbearable amounts. Or, If the CSEA alleges you have an illegitimate arrears, they’ll seize your money.

6. If you are self-employed (for example 1099) and are paid directly whether it be cash, check or money order, the CSEA in most cases (especially in cash transactions) is unable to wrongfully size money for an illegitimate arrears that they falsely allege you owe.

Finally, a legal disclaimer: What’s contained herein is not to be construed as legal advice in any manner whatsoever. What I’m offering here is my opinion only. You should seek the advice of a competent attorney before acting upon any information found on this blog. Failure to consult a competent attorney could be detrimental to you, or your family, or your friends, or others, or your case.

In closing, and for those of you who remember; do you recall the days when the IRS was considered vicious and out-of-control in how they effected their collections efforts? Well Ohio’s CSEAs (and all CSEAs nationwide for that matter) make the IRS of old seem impotent. If the old IRS were to be compared to a beagle for instance, the CSEAs of today are to be considered insane, rabid and psychotic pit bulls that weren’t intentionally loosed, but rather they “broke free” of the 3/8″ thick chains they were yoked to and are now out-of-control and running wildly.

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights

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Don’t Know if You Can Help

I received the following via email:
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Haven’t seen my now 5 year old son in over 13 months. Now have a 3 month old daughter. I’m low income and have been calling ABLE since Oct. but told to call back in 3 months they cant help. Been rejected three times by them, can you direct me to a low income legal service. I am only thirty five dollars in the rear for my child support and haven’t missed a payment in over a year. My ex cut me stopped visitation five months after our separation because she found out i finale found someone new. Not on my sons school contact list. Changed her number so i cant schedule visitation. Found out he now calls me by my first name and tells people that I hate him. My situation is just not right. If you cant direct me to some legal help. I understand and will keep trying on my own.

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Right there in that father’s email is a “prime” example of what the State of Ohio, Ohio’s 88 County “Child Support” Enforcement Agencies (CSEAs) and Ohio’s “Family Courts” consider “the best interests of the children.”

Ohio, it’s CSEAs, and the Courts couldn’t care less about this Ohio father’s little children. They ONLY care about the profit they’re making at his children’s expense. And that, while the child support mom (CSM) stealing this father’s income lies to and uses to innocent children in her sick, demented and twisted game whereby she uses his children to punish him, and them, by depriving them of a loving father who wants a relationship with his precious children.

I’ve seen a lot, hear a lot and cried about a lot over the years, but for some reason, this story is especially sickening to me. If this father were to fall behind in his “child support” payments, the CSEA would be enacting increasingly abusive punitive measures that would eventually end up with a criminal felony nonsupport indictment of this father. Even more vile and disgusting, Ohio’s CSEA would provide for free an attorney to the disgusting example of a “mother” in this case so as to ensure that this father would  go to jail.

I challenge anyone who supports Ohio’s vile and despicable “child support” system (aka CSEA) to post to this blog, the foundation of your support for such a perverted and repulsive agency who’s very conduct is behind this madness.

To those of you who in your manifold ignorance defend Ohio’s CSEAs; you are implicitly condoning the behavior of “mothers” such as the one described herein by supporting an agency that perpetrates and financially rewards those who willfully separate fathers from their children.

Even more sickening, is that Ohio’s CSEAs earn a profit each and every time the father who sent me the email above pays his “child support” obligation.

It is said that in the end times, what seems right will be wrong, and what seems wrong will be right. I can think of no better example of that than stealing income from one person in a transaction I call a “payroll theft” and giving it to another (the custodial parent-the mother in 84% of cases nationwide) while the man-in-the-middle who conducts the theft (Ohio’s CSEAs) “profits” from said transaction.

Ohio Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights

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Another Perspective

Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 19:07:04 -0700 [07:07:04 PM PDT]
From: tony.fantetti@ocffr.org
To: MXXXXX@XXXXX.com
Subject: Re: Another perspective
MXXXXXX

Thanks for taking the time to write me and share your perspective wth me. Your email brings up many issues that I’d like to address here in my reply.

Before delving into my response, I’d like to stress that I’m fully aware that there are many extraordinary moms out there who don’t abuse the system and more importantly consider their children’s best interest. That said, what I write is not directed at them, but at those to the contrary.

When I started this organization in 2007, I for the most part felt that “reasonable” amounts of child support was both warranted and morally just. Today, I know longer believe that, and regardless of who has custody, be that mom, dad or both.

I now believe that in most situations where there’s 50/50 “joint-custody” or if both parents have access to the children, then “child support” in such scenarios is the moral equivalency of theft.

To further explain; if a husband divorces his wife or a wife divorces her husband, then they should divorce themselves from their former spouse’s income, period. To seize said income under the guise of “child support” isn’t morally justified in this day and age in my humble opinion. It’s done (and morally accepted by most) simply because the law allows for it.

I don’t say that just because I’m a noncustodial parent (NCP), I say that because I truly believe that on a moral level, being on the receiving end of “child support” equates to a state-sanctioned theft.  Both parents, whether designated custodial parent (CP) or NCP by the courts, have most of the same expenses as they relate to the children involved. Being labeled NCP by a court doesn’t miraculously make ones child related expenses disappear.

Both must provide a roof over the child’s head, electricity, food, clothes, etc etc. So why is one parent (the NCP) forced under the threat of arrest and incarceration to pay “child support” to the CP? That makes no sense in situations where that “child support” paying NCP didn’t willfully walk out of their children’s lives, didn’t want to be kicked out of their children’s lives, but rather was unwillingly and forcefully separated from their children by an ex-spouse (or custodial mother in the case of “single moms”) through the courts and without a morally justifiable reason.

Additionally, why should  someone be entitled to more of their ex-spouse’s (or in the case of never-married moms, the father of her children) income simply because for instance, that person’s salary went from say $25,000 per year to $250,000 per year? Or, if an NCP wins the lottery, what moral right does the CP have to those winnings? Absolutely none in my humble opinion.

Trust me when I say I “truly” emphasize with you when you say that you’ve been forced to defend yourself in the five year court battle you mentioned. I know what that’s like and have personally lived that myself for more than seven years and after nearly $30,000 in legal fees.

However, what I don’t understand (not knowing your case) is why you mention that he’s voluntarily underemployed. I can infer from it that he’s most likely not working at anywhere near what you think his income potential is, and therefore the court ordered “child support” amount is somehow negatively affecting you.

I do recognize that there are both moms and dads (“child support” paying) who are willingly under-employed. But shouldn’t they also have a choice in what type of work they want to perform? What if someone wants to change careers, and doing so means they won’t be able to pay as much “child support?” Should they NOT be allowed to do so because they’re ordered to pay “child support” and doing so would significantly lower their income?

Is it right that they’re implicitly forbidden from going back to college (and work a remedial job while doing so) because they’re ordered to pay X amount of money per month as a “child support” obligation, and couldn’t meet that obligation if they did so? If the answer is yes, then please explain to me where they have any personal choices in the divorce that many of them didn’t ask for to begin with?

The court dictates how and when they can interact with their children and also dictates what career path they’ll take. Is that equitable, just and fair to someone who didn’t ask for nor want divorce in the first place?

Ohio law (and many states for that matter) wrote their “child support” statutes in such a way as to seize up to 65% or more of the NCP’s monthly “net” income. Additionally, lottery winnings, legal settlements, inheritances, bonuses, etc are all considered income. Some NCPs (such as actors, athletes, doctors etc) are ordered to pay $5000, $10,000 and in some cases tens of thousands of dollars  per month in “child support.”

At what point do we as a society become honest with ourselves and say, “this has nothing to do with the children, and everything to do with someone being forced to financially support an ex-spouse or a “one night stand?”"

In closing MXXXXXX, please know that much of what I asked is rhetorical in nature and not directed at you personally. It’s truly commendable that you aren’t taking advantage of the system in the manner that I’ve regularly blogged about here. Additionally, I do recognize that there are some cases where divorce is a must. However, I think we would agree that in these times, many people divorce at the drop of the hat, and for no good reason.

And yes, I do know that (as I said before) there are many great moms out there;  I’m currently married to one. When my present wife made the decision to leave her marriage, she did so by agreeing to give sole custody of her children to her ex-husband and refused to take any part of his two pensions or his social security benefits. She felt that because she was the one who chose to end the marriage that she wasn’t entitled to any of those things. Instead of “taking her ex-husband to the cleaners,” she decided that the morally right thing to do was to take nothing from him.

Sincerely,

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights
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Quoting M <XXXXXXX@XXXXX.com>:
Mr. Fantetti,
I was doing some research on willfull underemployment, and I stumbled on your website.  It is unfortunate that you seem to have been exposed to so many men who have had such bad luck with the “system.”
As I write this, I have been in a 5 year court/co-parenting battle with my son’s father.  Currently, I am spending my hard earned money that I make working 6 days a week to defend myself from a man who chooses to be willfully underemployed.  To say that I am exhausted is an understatement.  On many occasions I would like to give up, throw in the towel, and just call it quits.  He has done exactly what he promised when we were married–that if I ever left him he would make my life hell.  BUT, at the end of the day, I have my child’s best interest in mind.  I don’t put my stake in the court system.  They have failed me time and time again.
As you know the there are no winners and losers in a divorce…only losers.  The losers are the children.  You have such an opportunity to support these men and give them hope.  They need to be their for their kids through thick and thin-child support or no child support.
I hope that you, too, can see that there are some great moms out there who are not taking advantange of the system and would never want to see their child’s father in such a weak and exposed state.
May God bless you and the men that you serve,
MXXXXXX

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Warren County Father with Mental Disorder Jailed for Failing to Pay “Child Support”

Mr. Fantetti I am glad that I have stumbled upon your website. Although i may be a little late. I will go into Warren County court in the morning for a contempt charge. I am expecting to be arrested and serve thirty days in the county jail. I have 4 children and 3 separate orders all totaling up to around $600.00/month which I cannot pay. I am currently filed for social security disability benefits for a mental disorder mainly caused by all the drama of not being able to be there for or see my children. I have not seen my children for Six years now and it takes a great toll as a father. I also have a family here with 3 children that I am the step-father of. I just don’t know what to do in these circumstances if you or anyone can help please let me know I can be reached at xxx-xxx-xxxx Since I will most likely not return in the morning my fiancée can be reached at xxx-xxx-xxxx.any help or advice is appreciated.

Father in Distress,
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I received what’s posted above via email shortly before this father was sentenced to jail because he was unable to meet his “child support” obligation. Before I proceed, it’s imperative that you understand that the State of Ohio claims that jailing this father is “in the best interests” of his children. Really? And I as one who grew up without a father asks this “how exactly is it in a child’s best interest to be separated from their father?” I can personally attest to the fact that it’ll affect you for the rest of your life in
many profound ways.

There are numerous things worth discussing regarding this particular father’s dilemma, and they are as follows, but in no particular order:

1. The Ohio CSEA’s claims that they “act only on the best interests of the child.”
2. This father has 3 separate orders with the CSEA.
3. The mental distress that is experienced by fathers who aren’t allowed (or can’t) see their children is incredibly stressful and is very difficult to cope with. So much so, that some fathers commit suicide.

In regards to number one, make no mistake about it; the Warren County CSEA and all of Ohio’s 88 county CSEAs regulary incarcerate fathers who want to, but “can’t” pay their “child support” obligations. So what’s the Ohio CSEAs’ answer to the worst economy since the Great Depression, coupled with Ohio’s incredibly high (higher than the national average) unemployment rate? They happily, and out of nothing more than vengeance and hatred, regularly throw very good and incredibly loving fathers in jail.

Now, please just use your own judgment and seriously think about what I’m going to ask you; how does it help the children, and more importantly, how is it in a child’s best interest when Ohio’s CSEAs incarcerate fathers (and charge many of the same with career-destroying felonies) when a dad wants to, but it “unable” to meet his “child support” obligation? Seriously, does that make any sense to you whatsoever? They help children by jailing their fathers? Huh???

As stated in number two, this father has multiple,multiple (three to be exact) “child support” orders with the CSEA. I have only one, and it’s not just nerve-wracking, it’s absolutely maddening to have to deal with the incompetence of the “caseworkers” as well as the agency itself. For example, I have a $7,000+ overpayment for good reason.

Additionally, and regarding my second to last withholding order, the Hamilton County CSEA sent my employer no less than five different wage deduction notices for the “same” court-mandated deduction order.

So what’s so complicated about deducting “x amount of dollars” from a paycheck? Absolutely nothing. And not coincidentally, the CSEA kept ordering that too much money be deducted from my pay. I therefore can’t even fathom having to deal with those incompetents (assuming you can even reach any of them) for three separate deduction orders.

The mental distress mentioned in number three above can hardly be explained, it simply must be experienced by someone (and I’ve been through it, although thankfully not to the horrific extent as this father) to understand what being separated from your children can do to your mind, your intellect, and your emotional well being.

Until the powers to be (the politicians) change the rules (laws) to stop those (the States through their CSEAs) who are splitting the profits they “earn” from “child support” collections through Title IV (of the Social Security Act) Federal Incentive Incentive Match, we’ll continue to see more fathers being incarcerated. And quite tragically for the children involved, more dads will be committing suicide after having been driven to it by Ohio’s CSEAs through their contemptuously hateful treatment of Ohio fathers.

In Warren County Ohio there exists the the Jeremiah Morrow Bridge. Being the tallest bridge in the State is not its only distinction, there’s a little-known surreptitious use of this bridge that’s much darker in nature; people use it to commit suicide.

To this day, I still think about that heartfelt memorial I saw one day (many years ago) on the bank of the Little Miami River some239 feet below the bridge. It was solemn, heartbreaking, and very moving. There were no last names, and one two people identified on the plaque fastened to the memorial.

The first person  was being honored, and was the “daddy” (sic)  who jumped to his death from the bridge. The second person was the clearly heart-broken daughter (I believe she called herself his Princess) who was left behind, and whom erected the memorial to honor her never to be forgotten father. A father who for reasons I don’t know, decided that death was his only option and therefore leapt from Ohio’s tallest bridge to meet it.

Being a father of a daughter myself, I couldn’t imagine taking my own life and thereby leaving her to fatherless and having to face such an ugly (and increasingly uglier) world without the guidance or perspective of a father. However, and thanks only to Ohio’s CSEAs and anti-father “Family Courts,” I do understand the mindset that leads a father to that.

That said, I do not in any way judge that father for doing what he did, and thereby leaving his daughter to deal with the aftermath. However, I cannot help but wonder if he too wasn’t driven to what he did by the Warren County CSEA or Warren County’s “Family Court.” I don’t say that without just cause.

I’ve spoken to many fathers who were suicidal and driven to that mental state by Ohio’s CSEAs and “Family Courts.” I also investigated the suicide of a Warren County father who was going through a divorce and his “way out” was drinking the chemicals used to euthanize animals.

As I’ve said, until one goes through the horrors of being subjugated by Ohio’s CSEAs and “Family Courts” which are both very misandrist in an incredibly abusive and especially ugly way, one can’t even begin to fathom the emotional horrors that noncustodial fathers (and noncustodial mothers) go through in enduring the constant abuse of Ohio’s CSEAs.

When the father who sent me the email above explains that his mental disorder was “mainly caused” by the CSEAs, not only do I believe him, I’ve fortunately experienced the same kind of abusive hell from the Hamilton County CSEA that drove that father to where he is today. I say “fortunately” because I truly mean it as it allows me to empathize with others and thereby help them through the madness.

Thankfully though, and contrary to those broken fathers who did end their own lives, and but by the grace of God, I did come out the other side. However consider what I said in number one above, “The Ohio CSEA’s claims that they “act only on the best interests of the child.”"

Now ask yourself if you really believe that the Ohio CSEAs current draconian and abusive”child support” collections efforts are really about “the best interests of the children,” or if they’re truly about Ohio’s child support collections “profits” (through Title IV D Social Security Federal Incentive Match) at the emotional expense of the children.

Incarcerating fathers and abusing them with “statutory weapons of destruction” who’ve only fallen upon hard times and driving others to suicide is “in the best interests of the children?” Has anyone asked any children graveside ( after their fathers killed themselves) if they feel the same way?

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights
Email: tony.fantetti@ocffr.org

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The Athens County CSEA wants to “Serve You” Better

I’m unwilling to waste the required time to point out every stupid Ohio “Child Support” Enforcement Agency’s (CSEA) website I stumble upon. However, after I happened upon the Athens County Ohio CSEA’s website, I couldn’t refrain from pointing out the absolute stupidity in it’s design, comments and the lack of intelligence behind it.

Quite frankly, I find it moronic. I say that because whoever designed it is at least twice as stupid as they think fathers are. Am I behaving unprofessionally in writing this? I think not, and if others think I am, please know that I’m unapologetic for this one as the CSEAs are fair game, and I’m just not in the mood for such childish lies right now.

From their homepage, here’s moronic statement number one:

“The agency’s goal is to ensure that all children are supported financially by both parents.”

Is that so Mr. Randall L. Galbraith, Director, Athens County CSEA? Do tell sir, because we both know that not only isn’t there “anything” you can do to “ensure” that the custodial parent (the mother in 84% of cases nationwide) spends any money (and thereby financially supports) on the child. Did you get that??? You nor your agency even knows how, where, or on whom “child support” dollars are spent. Only the custodial mother and God (but no one else) knows where or how dad’s money is spent.

Ohio’s statutes state in part in ORC 3119.07

“(A) Except when the parents have split parental rights and responsibilities, a parent’s child support obligation for a child for whom the parent is the residential parent and legal custodian shall be presumed to be spent on that childand shall not become part of a child support order, and a parent’s child support obligation for a child for whom the parent is not the residential parent and legal custodian shall become part of a child support order.”

Please allow me to translate that for you Mr. Randall; it means that neither you, nor the court, nor the judge, nor the father nor “anyone” for that matter knows where the mother spends “her” “child support” dollars. Additionally, those monies aren’t audited nor is she even required under Ohio law to spend that money on the child. She can spend it in a bar, on clothes,or to buy herself clothes/jewelery, at a casino, on illicit drugs and anywhere Mastercard is taken if she’s using the Ohio e-QuickPay Debit MasterCard®  to “steal” money from the father of her children. Just because it’s legal, doesn’t make it right Mr. Randall.

Now, that said sir, I implore you to please explain to our readers how you as the Director of the Athens County CSEA can“ensure” that custodial mothers financially support their children, because Ohio law “doesn’t” require nor provide for it. You won’t and you can’t because you’re not only lying in making such a claim, you assume that those who read that garbage on your website are half as stupid as those who put it there, and that’s not the case.

Also from the Athens County CSEA website is this quote, the last sentence of which is utter nonsense:

“Children benefit when both parents work together to take care of their children’s emotional and financial needs, even when the parents are not married to one another. Children have the right to support from both parents. They do not lose this right even if their parents divorce or never marry.

First, allow me to point out that I agree with the majority of that statement; however, it’s what I’ve put in bold that’s nothing but lying filth to put it mildly. Not only that, Mr. Randall’s agency couldn’t care less if a mother won’t allow the children to see or talk to their father. His agency couldn’t care less if she’s actively engaging in parental alienation syndrome, and they couldn’t care less if the mother won’t allow the father to emotionally support his children. The following is on the homepage of the Athens County CSEA’s website:

“Services NOT provided by CSEA: *Visitation Issues *Custody Issues”

The CSEAs don’t care about children who can’t see their father (when the custodial mother won’t allow it) because CSEAs are in business to “ensure” that they earn a profit off of each and every “child support” payment that they steal from fathers at the emotional expense of the children.

The children of divorced, or of parents who never wed, (just like the father involved) have absolutelyno rights whatsoever, PERIOD. It’s the custodial mother (or custodial father in a few cases) who solely possesses all “rights” as they pertain to the children of those parents. If I had any “rights” Mr. Randall, then in your infinite wisdom and brilliance, please explain to me why after spending over $5,000 in legal fees to have my daughter’s mother held in contempt after refusing my “visitation” “rights” after I drove nearly 600 miles, why was she not found to be in contempt? I’ll tell you why sir, because I as a non-custodial father have no rights and my daughter has less.

Foolish statement number three from Mr. Randall’s agency’s website:

“Be involved with your child support case.”
“Tell us when you move, get a new job or have any other major changes in your life.”
“Complete and updated information helps us serve you better.”

Is that so Mr. Randall? Just exactly how do you serve fathers not just “better,” but at all? By stealing up to 65% of their net weekly income so your agency can earn a profit through his “child support” payments while he lives under a bridge because your agency drove him into homelessness, or he freezes in his house in winter because he has no money to heat it because he’s left with less than $50 per week (after your agency steals his “child support” payment that’s “presumed” to be spent on the child as mom uses her “child support” debit card to pay her nightly bar tab), or your agency had dad thrown in jail after charging him with a felony because he lost his job through no fault of his own in the worst economy since the Great Depression after the CSEA refused to lower his weekly “child support” obligation.

Truth be told, you and your website utterly disgust me Mr. Randall. I find it utterly vulgar and incredibly offensive that your agency puts the stinking filthy trash that is does on its website. The most offensive of all, is that the agency you direct is nothing more than a legalized extortion ring that makes the Mafia look like a bunch of church-going choir boys.

Put bluntly Mr. Randall, the CSEA literally steals from one party (the father in 84% of cases) and gives to another party (the mother) in a transaction (a payroll theft) whereby the CSEA “earns” a profit on. Said profit as you probably know funds part of Ohio’s General Fund among other things. So with this theft going on, you have the unmitigated gall to put the crap that you do on the CSEAs website, and pretend that fathers are “customers” or “clients” with whom you “serve?”What exactly are you serving, thievery?

Even worse, and much more insulting is that you probably believe that fathers like me read your garbage and think to ourselves, “oh really? I’m a “customer” of the CSEA and I should “notify the CSEA” of “major changes” in my life (like lottery winnings, inheritances etc) so your agency can label it as “child support” and steal it from me?

You know what I think I may start doing Mr. Randall to assist fathers in evading the legalized theft that the CSEAs routinely engage in? I might just start blogging about how they can hide income and assets, just to make a wrong right.

I don’t know you and I’ve never met you, but I can tell you that I pretty much don’t like you, find you repulsive and think you’re utterly despicable on a professinal level. How is that? How can I judge you so harshly having never met you sir? It’s simple; I’m a moral and just person who believes in right and wrong, and I know what you do for a living. You may not be judged in this life for what you practice Mr. Randall, but rest assured that you will be judge in the next. And all those fathers whose lives (and their precious and innocent children’s lives) have been destroyed by the CSEAs (such as the Athens County CSEA) will be avenged after true and righteous justice is delivered on their behalf.

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights
Email: tony.fantetti@ocffr.org

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Moria Weir of the Hamilton County Child Support Enforcement Agency is in Contempt of Court

I’ve blogged repeatedly about my ongoing “child support” overpayment that was nearly $7,500 give or take a few hundred.

To briefly explain;  the Hamilton County Child Support Enforcement Agency (CSEA) continues to deduct my “child support” obligation from my every paycheck despite me being nearly $7,500 overpaid in my obligation. I’m not even going to delve into how my overpayment mysteriously shrank by about $1,000 according to them.

That said, I called the Hamilton County CSEA last year and asked the caseworker why they keep seizing funds from me for “child support” while I’m overpaid nearly $7,500. I was told, “it’s because there’s a court order that says we must deduct your “child support” from your wages.”

Keeping that in mind, understand that without fail and like clockwork over the past 7 years, whenever the court ordered that my “child support” obligation be raised, the Hamilton County CSEA would IMMEDIATELY notify my employer that they must begin withholding the new higher amount from my paycheck, and that failure to do so would be contempt of court.

Well, that same court has now ordered the Hamilton County CSEA to lower my “child support” obligation (and to keep deducting that lower amount until my overpayment is zero)  to begin refunding my overpayment. Of course the hundreds of dollars in fees I paid to the CSEA as their “customer” will never be refunded to me, and that is one of the penalties I pay for paying my child support on time and as ordered.

Now, as I said, whenever my obligation was raised in the past, the Hamilton County CSEA quickly responded by ordering my employer to begin withholding the new higher amount, and that was reflected within one at most two pay cycles.

Well, here it is going on two months since the court ordered my money to be refunded (through a lower than normal monthly “child support” obligation) and do you think that they’ve contacted my employer and provided them with a new (lower) wage deduction order yet? The answer to that is a very emphatic NO!

And why is that, is the Hamilton County CSEA incompetent? Absolutely. Do they dislike me? Without a doubt, and to a much higher degree than they are incompetent. So are they singling me out and intentionally not lowering my “child support” obligation because they dislike me? Absolutely not.

Then what is it you ask? My answer to you ” a business.” To elaborate, the Hamilton County CSEA is a business who’s sole motive is NOT “the best interest of the children” as they falsely proclaim, but rather to “earn” a profit (through “child support” collections) at the expense of our children.

You don’t believe me? Then why do they routinely incarcerate fathers who’ve lost their jobs through no fault of their own in the worst economy since the Great Depression? Why do they suspend the drivers license of a father who’s trying desperately to become gainfully employed and yet MUST HAVE a valid driver’s license to become employed? Why do they suspend a father’s drivers license and thereby prevent him from driving so he can “visit” his children?

Why do they wrongfully and illegally seize the tax returns of fathers like myself who’ll go bankrupt and into foreclosure as I did. That, while I sat in my unheated (I couldn’t afford it) home in the dead of a brutal Midwest winter with my daughter Maria, who would look me square in the eyes and ask me through the fog of her breath (“inside” the house) “Daddy, why’s it always cold over here?”

Oh, and did I mention that Maria and I wore hats, gloves and coats INSIDE the house during the winter months in a futile effort to stay warm? Was Maria, who was shivering and cold inside my house, having her “best interests” served by the Hamilton County CSEA by having to dress as explained while we buried ourselves under layers and layers of blankets and sleeping bags during most of the time she was “visiting” me on my weekends?

Now, back to the Hamilton County CSEA’s role as a money making enterprise. Why do they willingly continue to defy a court order and thereby be in contempt of court by not lowering my monthly “child support” obligation as they were ordered to by a Hamilton County Judge? Is it because it’s in Maria’s best interest for them to continue taking money from me that they shouldn’t, and that I would otherwise be spending on her?

Of course not, as I explained, they couldn’t care less about my daughter or any other child who’s unfortunate enough to be victimized by the CSEA’s greed and profiteering at the expense of our children. Their motive then? It will cost the CSEA much needed monies in these terrible economic times, and they cannot afford to lose it as they, like everyone else, are struggling immensely with their budget amid the current economic crisis.

Allow me to elaborate; the Hamilton County CSEA, whose Director is Moria Weir, and the Section Chief Dan Cade is a business who like any other business has a sole motive which is to earn a profit.

The Hamilton County CSEA as well as all of Ohio’s 88 County CSEAs has directives that are in part dictated by Kim Newsom Bridges of the Ohio CSEA Director’s Association (OCDA). Under Ms. Newsom Bridges’ guidance, the CSEAs learn for instance how to seize the most money allowable under federal law (65% of net income) of a father’s paycheck for his “child support” obligation; even if that means that he and his children (like my daughter and I) go without heat in their home during Ohio’s brutally cold winters, or he’s driven into bankruptcy, homelessness etc.

Trust me when I say Ms. Newsom Bridges’ agencies couldn’t care less about the father, or the children of the father, who’s forced to live on $25 or less per week, and who therefore is forced to garbage pick (as I did with my daughter) to put food on the table. They care about one thing, and only thing only: “profit margins.”

I remember an email I got from an Ohio father years ago, it was very short and paraphrased, it said: “I haven’t seen or talked to my daughter in over two years because her mother won’t let me and I can’t afford an attorney because after the CSEA deducts my child support from my paycheck, I’m only left with a dollar per week to live on. PLEASE help me see my daughter, I miss love and miss her!!!

Did you get it??? “Get what” you ask? That father didn’t care about the $1 per week he was left with to live on after Ohio’s CSEA deducted his “child support” from his net pay; ALL that father cared about and petitioned me for, was assistance in seeing his precious beloved daughter whom he dearly loved, and obviously missed equally as much.

Not coincidentally, Ms. Newsom Bridges is also the President of the National Child Support Enforcement Agency (NCSEA) which  went bankrupt but still functions. My question is this; is that bankruptcy a testament to Ms. Newsom Bridges leadership?

It’s really important to understand just how deep this CSEA profiteering (at the expense of our children) goes. Ms. Newsom Bridges who at one time only had a role in Ohio, has expanded that role nationally in her dire efforts to save the Title IV profits. Those are the profits the CSEAs “earn” on our “child support” payments and that are paid to them by the Federal Government using “our” Social Security payroll taxes. By the way; ask any politician for the account number of the Social Security Trust Fund…It doesn’t exist.

Additionally, it appears that Ms Newsom Bridges is becoming more and more involved with politics as she advocates on behalf of the CSEA in the political theater. She’s looking more and more like a lobbyist to me. What I’d like to know is how her travel expenses as well as her expense accounts are funded, but I’ll save that for another day.

Back to my point, and I apologize for that lengthy sidetrack, however it is relevant because one needs a minimal understanding of the structure of the agencies that drive this profiteering, and that are for the most part under the direction of Kim Newsom Bridges in her various positions.

The Hamilton County CSEA will not lower my “child support” obligation as they were ordered because it would cut into their much needed Title IV profits as they’d be collecting fewer support dollars from me. And considering that they are in business to earn a profit in the worst economy since the Great Depression, EVERY dollar counts as you, I and everyone else knows.

But I’m only one person you say, could it really cost them that much in lost profits to lower your support obligation as the court ordered? Absolutely, when you consider this; imagine the tens of thousands of cases in Hamilton County alone. Now, consider the hundreds of thousands of “child support” cases in the State of Ohio; if the CSEA drags it’s feet on all court orders that mandate lowering a monthly child support obligation while quickly processing all court orders that raise an obligor’s monthly obligation, try to imagine on statewide basis how much money that would put in Ohio’s coffers.

To Ms. Moria Weir of the Hamilton County CSEA, I’m putting you on notice. A Contempt of Court and a court order goes two ways; just as the CSEA can file motion to have an obligor held in contempt for failing to pay child support, I as an obligor can file a motion to have you personally held in contempt for failing to obey a court order by not lowering my support obligation.

That said Ms. Weir, you will lower my monthly “child support” obligation as the court ordered nearly two months ago, or I will instruct my attorney to file a motion to have you and Mr. Dan Cade held in contempt. You, and contrary to what to you may think, are not above the law nor the courts Ms. Weir.

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights
Email: tony.fantetti@ocffr.org

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Are “Single Moms by Choice” Heroines or Villains?

Before proceeding, I want to clarify the following; This article is not directed at mothers who divorced for legitimate reasons or are single through no fault of their own.

It’s directed at those “child support moms” who either chose to be a “single mom” because they didn’t (and don’t) want to marry  the father of “their” children, or they divorced the father of their children out of nothing more than self-serving and selfish reasons (that were thinly veiled as “legitimate”), or they intentionally deceived the father of “their” children so as to become pregnant, and unknowing to him, and lastly, it’s directed at the most selfish and self-centered type of “single mom by choice.”

They are those women who have that “you go girl” attitude and thereby aren’t just proud about bringing fatherless children into the world, they’re incredibly ostentatious and extremely dogmatic as they pontificate their reasons why fathers “aren’t needed” to raise children. Sadly, and like most other “single moms by choice,” they too are wrongfully worshiped and idolized as heroines when in my humble opinion they are in fact villains as I’ll explain.

What is a villain? In a general sense, they are those who oppose a hero.  Used in a sentence, we have for example this from an online dictionary: “Don’t try to make me the villain. It’s your own fault that you’re having these problems.”

I can remember a time when the norm was that mom was considered a nurturer, and dad was “Superman” or a “hero.” If you hurt or were sad, melancholy etc, you generally went to mom for comforting.

If you needed something fixed, or needed help with “the impossible” or needed protection from a bully etc, you went to dad because “dad could do anything” and was “the strongest man in the world,” end of story.

Today, and due to both feminism and a media that caters to feminists, we’re told (sometimes explicitly, other times implicitly) that dads are, “not needed,” “deadbeats”, “incompetent”, “lazy”, “ineffectual,” “uncaring,” “dolts” etc etc. In short, moms are sent from Heaven, while dads are agents of Satan, and (just like with Satan) the world would be a much better place without him.

So dad, (like Satan) is then “cast out” of the family, and the reasons for mom doing so are as innumerable as the stars, and justifiable simply because “mom says so.”

Additionally, some of the alleged reasons given by her are “to protect the children,” “because he’s a scoundrel”, “he scares me”, and “he scares the children,” “he’s “violent;”" and that despite there not being one shred of evidence to substantiate such an allegation in many cases.” In short, dad is said to be whatever mom claims he is, only much worse.

Why? Well, it’s very simple; for there to be a hero, there has to exist a villain. For instance, we hear so much about “the struggling single mom.” Most of the time, she’s said to be struggling to “provide for the children,” and she “does the best she can considering.” The problem in such a scenario? Nine times out of ten, we’re told it’s said to be “dad”, aka the “villain” who’s to blame for all of said single mom’s problems.

Even worse, and what we never hear from the media is that the majority of these moms “chose” to become single moms, and in many cases for reasons that were self-serving only when they kicked their father’s children out of their lives. We are therefore expected to pity and feel sorry for these same moms who then complain about the very situation that they alone created.

They unilaterally decided to kick dad out of his children’s lives, and then they blame him for their problems after they do so? Am I really the only one who has a problem with this? Does anyone else see the hypocrisy and wasted pity in such a scenario?

We’re told (by the media, politicians, celebrities etc) day in and day out that the biggest problem with “single dads” (who most by the way are NOT single by choice), is that they allegedly “don’t pay their child support”or they don’t “pay enough child support” and it’s therefore implied that single/divorced dads are “villains.”

Lets  quickly deconstruct the “he doesn’t pay child support” or the “he doesn’t pay enough child support” whine that many a bleater incessantly complains about.

1. In the overwhelming majority of “single mom” cases, she chose to be a single mom. Hence the term I prefer, “single mom by choice.”
2. If you kicked the father of “your” children out of their lives, why don’t you also kick his wallet of your life as well,  and support yourself with your own money as adults are expected to do?
3. I saw a study whereby it was determined that only about 30% of a father’s “child support” payments were actually spent on the child(ren). The rest supported the mother’s lifestyle. Additionally, 30% was said to be a “generous” amount.
4. Why should a father, whom you unilaterally kicked out of his children’s lives pay you anything? Said otherwise, why should you be financially rewarded for forcing your children to grow up without a father in their lives?
5. Instead of you being paid child support, how about you agree to give the father full custody, you pay him “no” child support whatsoever, and you visit the children in his house that you let him keep (along with the car) after you unilaterally decided you wanted a divorce and considering that he was against it?
6. In today’s times, it’s a statistical fact that now, more women than men are entering and graduating from college. Additionally, I believe that there are nearly equal numbers of men and women pursuing Engineering and Science degrees. So why are men still paying “child support” to women? After all, it’s equal rights right?
7. Mothers are said to be the “primary caregivers” of the children. Yet there’s about an equal number of men and women in the workforce, and more women than men attending college. That said, “daycare centers” are the primary caregivers of children in most households. Look around college campuses and you’ll see that more and more of them have clothing stores “for babies.” For what you say? Why it’s for the single mom by choice who’s collecting “child support” and going to college full time while the father of “her” children pays her “child support” and pays “her” daycare costs so she can attend classes all day while her children sit in daycare. Is that really just, equitable, fair, and most importantly in the best interest of the children?

If your answer to number 5  above is “no,” then please comment on this post and give me one substantiated and justifiable reason that you won’t agree to number 5 if your sole motive is not money, and therefore selfish greed at the expense of your children.

The definition of a wretch is, “: a miserable person : one who is profoundly unhappy or in great misfortune.” Many a single moms by choice do nothing but complain about how miserable their lives are, and because they allege, the father of their children either a) doesn’t pay “child support”, or b) doesn’t pay “enough” ‘child support’ according to her.

A wretch is also a synonym for villain. Additionally, and as I demonstrated earlier, a dictionary example of using villain in a sentence is this: “Don’t try to make me the villain. It’s your own fault that you’re having these problems.”

Time and time again, I see on TV, hear on radio, or read on blogs and in newspapers countless “single moms by choice”, or politicians and or Ohio Child Support Enforcement Agency (Ohio CSEA) officials (speaking on behalf of single moms by choice) blame single or divorced dads for a child support mom’s woes.

Additionally, and what the public doesn’t know, is that in many of those same cases, those single moms by choice won’t “allow” the father of her children to see or talk to them. And that, only because she’s so full of unanswered hatred and vengeance towards him, that she’ll punish him to no end and at all costs for her problems and her miserable conditions that she alone created but blames him for, because she unilaterally kicked him out of his child’s life.

What these single child support moms by choice truly need to come to terms with for the sake of the innocent and precious children involved (who didn’t ask to be thrust into any of this, and thereby have their worlds turned upside down and destroyed) is this; she must learn to love her children more than she hates their father. Until she does so, the innocent children will continue to suffer, and she’ll be incapable of acting in the their best interests.

In closing, this post is not meant to “bash moms” nor is my intent to engage in misogyny, for I am not a misogynist. Rather, I am a voice for the truth.

Additionally, I am one who can’t no longer sit silently while countless good and loving fathers are turned into “paying visitors” of their own children, and through no choice nor fault of their own.

Many fathers didn’t ask, nor did they ever agree to have their children ripped out of their lives. In the process, they’re vilified and marginalized by the press, public, politicians, and most importantly, by the very mothers who for no good or justifiable reason (and often times out of nothing more than self-serving greed) decided one day that “her” children would henceforth be “fatherless.”

Therefore, a mother who unilaterally and out of her own self-serving, selfish and unjustifiable reasons decides to be a “single mom by choice” is anything but a heroine in my humble opinion, she is to the contrary; a villain.

The true heroes are the fathers who through no choice of their own, and despite being kicked out of their children’s lives, go to great lengths and facing near impossible odds, will stop at nothing in their efforts to somehow stay involved in the lives of their precious kids.

So the next time you’re in the grocery store or at the movies, a school function, or wherever you are; look around you and observe just how many single moms you see and consider how many of those “chose” (through an unjustifiable self-serving reason or reasons only) to be single moms. Trust me when I say that you’ll see few wedding bands.

Obviously, you won’t know the reasons why she’s single, but I can tell you that if she chose to be single through divorce , then statistically speaking, her reasons for doing so were probably self-serving ones.

Next, look at the children with those moms and consider that they’ll either grow up fatherless, or have very little contact with their fathers because in many cases mom (out of nothing more than her self-serving reasons) decided that “her” children aren’t going to see their father, and he won’t be a part of their lives as would the father to children of a mother who chose to marry or stay married.

Considering this, “Don’t try to make me the villain. It’s your own fault that you’re having these problems”, this, “What is a villain? In a general sense, they are those who oppose a hero,” this, “The definition of a wretch is, “: a miserable person : one who is profoundly unhappy or in great misfortune,” and finally this, “A wretch is also a synonym for villain;” Is the single mom by choice as described herein in your opinion truly a heroine, or a villain?

Again, I do not direct what’s contained herein at widows or moms who really needed to divorce for good reason. What I’ve written is directed at “child support moms” and “single moms by choice” who are such without just cause.

Respectfully,

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights
Email: tony.fantetti@ocffr.org

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Ohio Removes Web Pages after We’ve Linked to them

Please note that I’ve linked to various web pages on the State of Ohio’s web sites in many posts I’ve made to this blog.  I’m discovering that Ohio has since removed the specific portions (from their website) that I had referenced and discussed in many blog posts here, and that’s suspicious in  my humble opinion, and here’s why; rather than removing the entire web page itself, and as one might do when they’re redesigning their web site for example, the State of Ohio coincidentally only removed that to which I made references to.

For instance, in this post from May 27, 2009 about a cancer-fighting Ohio father being terribly abused by the Ohio “Child Support” Enforcement Agency (CSEA), Ohio removed the links (and as I noted in the very lengthy Editor’s Note that I’ve used in this post) after I pointed out the disgusting truth of which they couldn’t deny. That being, “child support” has nothing to do with “the best interest of the children,” but rather everything to do with how Ohio will (and does) use every filthy and disgusting tactic that they can, to bleed “child support” paying mothers and fathers dry in Ohio’s efforts to maximize its profits on “child support” collections.

When it comes down to it, the abusive, contemptuous and hateful tactics that the CSEAs routinely engage in, and whereby they regularly force “child support” paying fathers into bankruptcy, homelessness, incarceration,  and into humiliating and degrading living conditions is bad enough; but what’s indescribably worse, is how the children of those same fathers suffer as my own daughter did and still does.

Many Ohio “child support” paying fathers go without heat during the winter months because they can’t afford to heat their homes, or their utilities are disconnected, and their precious and innocent children suffer as a result.

Many Ohio “child support” paying fathers have had their driver’s licenses suspended by the CSEA after they were laid off from their jobs in the worst economy since the Great Depression, so they can’t drive to see their children, and their precious and innocent children suffer as a result.

Many Ohio “child support” paying fathers have been incarcerated after they were laid off from their jobs in the worst economy since the Great Depression, because they “unwillingly” fell behind in their “child support” obligations. Since their children are the victims of their father’s “crimes” and the mother of the children won’t let the fathers talk to the children while he’s in jail, his children aren’t allowed to see or talk to their loving fathers, and their precious and innocent children suffer as a result.

Many Ohio “child support” paying fathers have been convicted of felonies after have been indicted by the Ohio CSEA after they were laid off from their jobs in the worst economy since the Great Depression, and therefore “unwillingly” fell behind in their “child support” obligations.

After they were released from jail, these same fathers with “child support” obligations couldn’t find a job with the new felony conviction that the CSEAs caused them to now have in their criminal records. With their new (CSEA caused) felony record, coupled with the economy as it is, chances are that they “won’t” find a job, and will for the second time be indicted by the CSEA.

Only this time, their criminal indictment will be under a more serious felony charge that carries more prison time than the first. Even worse, they’ll probably be declared “voluntarily under-employed” by the courts, and their precious and innocent children suffer as a result.

I could go on an on about how the children suffer as a direct result of this madness. But for now, suffice it to say that what I was linking to on Ohio’s web sites for all intents and purposes proved my Continue reading

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A Repost of a My Response to Another Commenter’s Post

Below is my re-posted response to another commenter who posted here:

Given my situation has changed considerably since I made that original blog entry in August of 2008, I wanted to point out as I have below, that the State of Ohio as well as its 88 County Child Support Enforcement Agencies will stop at nothing in their quests to “earn” and maximize Ohio’s annual child support collections profit at the ‘expense’ of the best interest of Ohio’s precious children.

Now that I’ve gone from allegedly “having a child support arrears” to being nearly $8,000 overpaid in my “child support” obligation, you’ll see how Ohio stops at nothing to continue confiscating my money in her claims that it’s “in the best interest” of my precious ten year old daughter Maria:
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Jeremy,

As one who has lost everything as a direct result of a “child support” order, I can empathize with what you’ve expressed here.

All three of the homes I once owned went into foreclosure, and what I had left was eventually taken from me as described herein. I was on the verge of homelessness and had explained to my wife at one point that “we’ll probably have to live in a tent in the woods somewhere” after I lost my job through no fault of my own.

I lost the three homes I once owned and immediately went bankrupt after the Hamilton County Child Support Enforcement Agency (CSEA) under the guise of “acting in the best interests of my daughter” began confiscating about $,1200 per month from my net pay for “child support.”

After a lifetime of perfect credit and after having built up an investment portfolio that included three homes and nearly $100,000 in securities, I filed for bankruptcy about four months after I was ordered to pay about $1,2000 per month (cash) in “child support” payments.

After that paycheck “deduction,” I could no longer afford to pay the mortgage on my principal residence. It was therefore foreclosed on, and we were evicted by a Hamilton County Sheriff’s Deputy while we were still trying to pack what was left of our belongings. We had sold much of what we had at yards sales (for pennies on the dollar) just to put food on the table after the Hamilton County Ohio CSEA seized $211 of my $422 per week unemployment check. I was left with about $844/mo to support my family when gasoline was over $4 per gallon.

Many of my daughter’s belongings (including her most sentimental and prized items) were left behind in that house because we HAD to leave shortly after the deputy arrived, or we’d face arrest.

Keep in mind, that this was all in the best interest of my daughter. How do I make that correlation? Easily; the State of Ohio argues that they seized $1,200 per month of my net pay for “child support” because it was “in the best interest” of my daughter Maria that said monies be seized from me, and turned over to her mother to “support her.”

Now given that that very seizure caused me to lose my home and most of my daughter’s possessions, it was obviously in her best interest using the State of Ohio’s “best interest” reasoning, or they never would have set my “child support” order so high that it bankrupted me right?

My freedom was lost; that, right after I was wrongfully incarcerated, strapped into a chair, and then violently beaten by Hamilton County Sheriff’s Deputies at the Hamilton County Justice Center after being taken into custody at gunpoint one day on a civil contempt warrant . A warrant that was issued (by the same court Continue reading

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This Site Continues to be Under Construction

To my valued readers,

Please be patient as I continue rebuilding and redesigning the blog. My first concern is restoring all posts from the past. That effort continues, and I’ll hopefully be completed within two weeks. Additionally, other changes will continue so as to restore the old look that you’re familiar with, and to add additional features as well.

As explained in an earlier post, I was essentially unable to rebuild the sites due to not having high speed internet access for nearly two years. That has now changed, and I therefore look forward to returning to my public advocacy on behalf of not only all noncustodial parents (NCPs), but most importantly that on behalf of our defenseless and beloved children, those who are most abused at the hands of Ohio’s Child Support Enforcement Agency of our children.

Sincerely,

Tony Fantetti
Ohio Council for Fathers Rights
Email: tony.fantetti@ocffr.org

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There are Hundreds of Thousands of Others Living Your Nightmare

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